So you agree with Christian Arabs that only RACISTS could say Abraham made a mistake by having Ishmael ?

Ishmael was Born of Hagar. Hagar found an Egyptian wife for her son, and he in time fathered 12 sons, chieftains and family heads of the promised “great nation” of Ishmaelites. Ishmael also had at least one daughter, Mahalath, who married Esau.At the age of 89 Ishmael assisted Isaac in burying their father Abraham. After that he lived another 48 years, dying in 1795 B.C.E. at the age of 137.

Claiming Ishmael as a Prophet is Ridiculous.

Abraham slept with Hagar with the aid of fact he did no longer believe in G-d. jointly as that does no longer mean that Ishmael is forgotten or banished, that still does no longer mean that he's the chosen of G-d. G-d chosen particular human beings to steer over the centuries. He had a plan laid out. Ishmael became into the effect of attempting to do issues the human way, rather of G-d's way. Ishmael became into convienent for Islam with the aid of fact it supplied yet in a distinct thank you to adhere in yet another savior. It became right into a manner for their prophet to declare that he became into ordained via G-d with the aid of fact lineage. and then declare that the bible is corrupt, with the aid of fact it would not point out this super lineage. there is actual plenty greater to the conflict - besides the reality that the unconventional Muslims attempt to kill Jews and Christians the international over. And that Muslims occupying Palestine are falsely claiming that the land belongs to them. there is not any such factor as a Palestinian - those persons are refugees from Egypt, Iraq, Iran etc. you besides mght have the reality that Muslims declare that the bible is corrupt, and that there prophet - who by no potential gave a prophecy, became into the final super prophet. You get the photograph - there is plenty greater then purely Ishmael at stake right here.

Abraham and Sarah circumvented God's original plan for them by going ahead of Him and had Ishmael (Abraham was age 86)BEFORE God's timing for them to bear the son He had promised, namely Isaac at age 99 or 100) (Read Genesis chapters 16 & 17, then chapter 18:10,But when God told Abraham to take Isaac up on the mountain, he said to take his son "his ONLY son",(Gen.22: 2 & 12) which also says Isaac was the son of Promise and the one in God's scheme of things as to destiny and eternity. Then read Genesis chapters 21 & 22.

Well, he made a mistake by having a son w/Hagar instead of letting God provide the promised son, but no child is a mistake. Sarah also erred by suggesting he do so, what was she thinking? She had to know down the line it would cause chaos in her life.

We are all guilty of disobeying God & so was Abraham & sometimes the consequenses can effect all humanity,thank God that He has a plan for man that will not fail. That is why He gave us Romans 8:28, for we know that all things work together for the good to those that love God those that He has called according to His purpose. Amen!!!!!!!!

THe mistake Abraham made was not one having to do with race but with a lack of faith

The heir of the covenant was promised to Abraham and Sara by God...lack of faith in the capability of God to deliver on his word caused Abraham and Sara to make the mistake of using Hagar to create an Heir GOd did not ordane.

GOd had a plan and Ishmael was not the heir he had promised...thats all there is to that. You can read into it whatever you like but the facts are plain

And someone else that no one else has ever heard of once said "Arabs are effing crazy!!!"

So who am I suppossed to believe?

And this guy has no clue what he's talking about. God didn't make a "creative mistake" when the first black person was brought "into being" he cursed Cain for killing Abel...how is that a mistake?

Ismael was concieved because God's people were not patient to wait for God's promise

God is so merciful, he blessed the race that came because of man's doings

God's first mistake was trying to create light before the sun.

Genesis 1:13

As a member of a Christian Arab Church, I would agree.