"Pro Choice means Pro Death??"?

Pro-choice means the ability to make the choice. If someone doesn't think it's right, fine, don't do it. But I can't fathom how some can tell others they can't do it either. Just because some think it's wrong and it's murder, doesn't mean others think the same way, and people have to realize that before they veto "abortion rights" bills.

The one thing I can't stand in politicians is when they let their religious and moral views get in the way of their leadership and decision making.

Sorry, I haven't time to read your whole spiel. But indeed some (note 'some') women given the legal right to make the choice will indeed choose to to have an abortion and thus cause the death of a foetus, if the pregnancy or the idea of having to bring up a child is unwelcome to them. On the other hand the 'pro-lifers' force girls who have been raped to carry the resulting baby. Both situations are unwelcome and only your personal ethics can resolve your personal position.

Pro-choice means pro-choice........not pro-death.

I certainly don't advocate it....but it's not me who has to live with the results of whatever choice a person makes. It's one thing to talk to someone about options and another to condemn them. Believe me....I wouldn't dare think of telling a 13 yr old rape victim she MUST have this child or be a murderer.

It's too personal and last I knew....there was a higher being who has the final say....not humans. Influence....OK.....but control? No. Seems too many are trying to take Gods job away or take away the one thing he gave us, free will. He didn't give that to us, to then have some extremists stand as judge, jury and executioner. Isn't that what the whole idea of the hereafter is about? Don't think God can handle this in his own way, in his own time and be more effective than "man" can? I thought faith and trust was a part of it.....let the supreme being do his job. Have faith that he knows what he's doing......he's the only one that really knows what goes on in the hearts and minds of those faced with this choice.

No. Their may be a correlation between the two, but they are not the same. Pro-choice, usually means a feeling that a woman should have a legal choice to choose to have an abortion. It does not include other topics. Pro-feminism indicates a general support for all the ideas feminism pushes for including practices which favor women. ~

It all comes down to whether or not you believe in the sanctity of enbryonic life. If you do not, would you care about the safe child when it grew older?

If so, we then measure human beings' right to live by their age. That is hardly fair. (and is not our place)

It is ridiculous (considering the above) to consider getting an abortion murder, but legalising the "choice" not just as horrible. That is like being repulsed at the idea of parents beheading their teenage children, yet thinking that it should be their choice. If it is wrong, then noone should have the choice to do it. Should I have to choice to kill someone?

Again the age argument,when does it stop? You can kill your kid now because you made a bad decision, or you were tramatised by someone else, so why not have the choice to kill them when they are 7-9 and making messes? Or when they are teenagers and rebelling? Who has the right to take away your choice?

What about theirs?

Just because a baby is too young to inforce its choice (to live), does not mean that we should be able to take it away.

EVERYONE should have the ability to choose whether they live or die, and should not lose that choice unless they do something to forfit it (capital crime, etc), not because YOU make a mistake.

Human sanctity of life is what seperates us from animals, and the more we lose our sanctity of life, the more animalistic we become.

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Pro-choice simply means you support a woman's right to have an abortion if SHE feels she can't have the child she's carrying. There's all kinds of mad discussion on when life begins and ends.... either way, the idea is that I don't foist MY personal view of ethics on another human being, believing in their freedom to choose virtue or non-virtue and not be judgemental when they actually have chosen. Sorry if you seek a thrashing from me, because I don't choose to be arrogant about other people's beliefs, nor am I arrogant enough to claim I know everything about everything.

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Its the way that one side trys to spin and frame the argument to disparage the other side. It also greatly misstates the debate.

My own views withstanding, it is completely erroneous

to label the "Pro Choice" argument of this debate as "Pro-Death". I can absolutely without hesitation guarantee that not one single women has ever purposely gotten pregnant with the intention of having an abortion.

This is one of the many questions I'm trying to answer for my kiddos - and one of the many I just don't understand. Some idiot awhile back must have made up the rules that one side has to be "pro-choice" and one side "pro-life". It's not that black and white.

I might just start a petition to have things changed. It should be "pro-choice" / "anti-choice". Or something like that.

Here's a silly "similar question" : Why do we call places we park "Drive-ways" and places we drive on "Parkways"??? Who made these decisions in the English language? Must have been a man! *insert cheeky devilish smiley here*!!

Agreed, it's supposed to be a free country, isn't it? :-)

Pro-war people are pro-death and they are often the ones who call themselves pro-life, go figure...

Reminds me of one time, years ago, I went to get the birth control pill at a clinic, not knowing any better, I just didn't have money for a doctor. I got assaulted on my way out by "pro-life" people showing me pictures of dead fetuses, they didn't want to hear I was not having an abortion, just getting birth control, they harrassed me and hit my car anyway! Those people are nuts!

These are a bunch of dumb circumlocutions.

I am pro-abortion. I do not disguise it by calling it "pro-choice." There are lots of things that I do not want you to have a choice on, such as going 90 mph in a school zone.