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Do Jews and non Jews get the same reward in the World To Come in Judaism's view?
I have read that they get an equal reward and have read that Jews get more for all the more laws they observe. So which one do you believe?
"The Jew and the non-Jew who observe their respective commandments have both equally fulfilled their mission in life, and are both equally deserving of their reward. However, it is certain that the observance of the additional Mitzvot makes the mission more difficult, and as the adage goes "the greater the difficulty the greater the reward"." http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=541&o=387
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- AriLv 41 decade agoFavorite Answer
Well, for starters not all Jews believe in the same kind of afterlife in the first place. Judaism is more about obeying the laws while here on earth because we were told to and that's it. That doesn't exclude Noachides (descendants of Noah - Gentiles). You are included but less is required of you as long as you don't convert. Once you make the choice to convert you are considered fully Jewish and are thus required to follow all of the mitzvah - and there are hundreds of them. As a Noachide you are only required to follow 7 laws and most of them are no brainers that just come with being decent. I think that all Jews would agree that it is better to be a good Noachide than a bad Jew, so if you aren't fully committed to ALL of what it takes to be Jewish don't convert.
There is a great forum on Judaism and there is an entire section devoted to the "Children of Noah" and it is a great place to have your questions answered about your place in the Jewish philosophy - and YES Gentiles have a place in Judaism.
Good Luck to you!
Source(s): http://forums.torah.org/viewforum.php?f=6 - kismetLv 71 decade ago
I believe that a non-Jew who observes the seven Noahide Laws deserves and receives an equal reward to Jews who observe the mitzvot.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Non-Jews (goyim) who keep the Noahide Law out of respect for a monotheistic deity have an equal sharing in Olam Haba (The World to Come).
However, as a non-Jew who does not keep Noahide nor believe in any deity at all, I'm still curious what happens to someone like me. No Rabbi I've ever asked has had an answer. In a way, I find this a refreshing change from the know-it-all attitude of most religions... but it leaves me so danged curious!
- Anonymous1 decade ago
The link you provided does not contain this quote on the page. Whose old adage are you quoting and where is it?
EDIT: Just found the quote in a reply to a question asked to the editor of the page. (I had to click on it.) So, I would ask the same questions of the editor / respondent to that question--whose old adage? The quote seems to contradict what was stated on the page. No wonder you have posted this question here.
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- ?Lv 51 decade ago
It makes sense logically that, if the reward is commensurate with the effort, the Jew, of whom is demanded a greater effort, has a greater reward in store. Don't forget - he worked harder to get it. Like they say, Jesus saves, but Moses invests. And the reward for a Jew who keeps the commandments would be greater than that of a non-Jew who keeps the commandments (which are not binding upon him), because according to our sages, greater is the merit of one who does because they are commanded than one who does purely of their own volition. This may be counterintuitive because you'd think that the one who does without being commanded is showing greater initiative and deserves more recognition. But it makes sense if you think about it. It's easy to do things that you feel good about doing. But when someone COMMANDS you to do it, your instincitve response is to balk at the authority giving the command. Think about it - when a parent tells the child to do something, the child's instinctive reaction is to resist, even the simplest chore. So too with G-d and His children (i.e. all human beings). Greater is the merit of overcoming our natural inclinations and serving Him on His turns than the merit of serving G-d on our own terms, which isn't service in the truest sense of the word.
But before you go and say it's unfair, consider the fact that anyone can become Jewish. Any non-Jew has the option of converting to Judaism, at which point all the privileges and all the obligations of Jewishness are theirs. If anything, the system is unfair to the Jew. The Jew can not cease being Jewish - they can only become an apostate. The Jew has only one way to G-d, the Torah and its 613 commandments. Of course, that way consists of many paths, as it is written "all its paths are paths of pleasantness" - but all those paths must fall within the daled amos (the "four cubits") of the Shulchan Aruch (the Code of Jewish Law) to be valid. The non-Jew on the other hand, has two ways to G-d. Either they can keep the Seven Noachide Laws, which basically only discourage evil, or, they can become Jews, and attain the same reward as any other Jew for the same effort.
Imagine, if you will, that the afterlife is an upcoming musical concert that everyone wants to go to. And I know it might strike the reader as a tad crass, but for lack of a better metaphor, let's pretend that spiritual merit (the effort one puts into his or her relationship with G-d) can be measured in dollars. Now, the Jew has the option of front row tickets, complete with backstage pass, the whole deal. But they cost $1000. And for some reason, they won't sell the Jew cheaper seats - he's just not allowed to buy. Compare that to the non-Jew. The non-Jew can get in for as cheap as $10. Granted, he's at the back of the room if he buys the $10 ticket, but at least he gets into the concert! Again, the Jew can't get in for less than $1000. And if the non-Jew really wants the whole front-row/backstage package, well, they have an entire lifetime to work and save a thousand bucks towards the tickets. Now I ask you, who has the better deal?
Okay, so that's really only a very superficial treatment of the subject, but my metaphor doesn't allow for a lot of nuance. Whether or not Jews who don't keep the Torah still have a shot at getting into the concert with cheapo tickets, well, that's a complex subject, and to be honest, probably out of my paygrade.
The fact is, we Jews don't really concern ourselves with the afterlife the same way Christians do. An obsession with Heaven and Hell was a tool the Church could use to pacify people living oppressed, miserable little lives. The idea that their current suffering (often as a result of actions by said Church) would ultimately be compensated in the hereafter kept them docile and prevented rebellion. I'm not saying that people aren't compensated by the Almighty for the pain they endure in this life, I'm just saying that this idea has been used by non-Jewish religious authorities to keep the masses "in their place." Of course, that's just my heretical Jewish take on the subject - and my being Jewish pretty much guarantees anything I say vis-a-vis Christianity is going to be heresy, so take that for what you will.
Like I was saying before, we Jews don't really bother ourselves with the details of the afterlife, because the Torah is all about how to live our lives. The Egyptians from whom G-d redeemed us, they were obsessed with the afterlife, and what did it give them? A handful of pyramids, an eternal testament the ego of the Pharoahs, who were mummefied and buried with their gold, wives, servants, and other posessions. And a damned lot of good it did them. No, we Jews concern ourselves first and foremost with what the Torah says about THIS life, because if we live our lives according to G-d's plan, everything else will take care of itself. In Judaism, we call that "bitachon," "trust [in G-d]".
I hope this helps clarify things, and if you have any further questions on the subject, feel free to contact me directly.
- Mark S, JPAALv 71 decade ago
Yes, this is what we believe. Judaism is as much, if not more so, a religion of doing as it is of believing.