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I would like to hear other's opinions on tipping servers in restaurants?

I have been waitressing for about 12 years, i really enjoy it even though it's really stressfull. i am now a manager of a bar and grill type of restaurant. and i am always surprised at people. (part of the reason i love my work) my very best server had a table last night with 4 people, all of their drinks and courses were courteously served in a timely fashion, i even make it a habit to take a run through the dining room to be sure the customers are properly taken care of. talking to them briefly, if they are not too engrossed in their own conversations. these particular customers never complained and i believe recieved excellent service. they did not tip the server!! why do you think that is?? any ideas??

Update:

i have seen waiting and if any of my servers EVER actually did any of those things they would be terminated immediately! but i loved the movie

Update 2:

GoldyLox21 and liquid_t, THANK YOU!!! FINALLY, someone understands! to those of yu who don't tip or think that a server should always go the extra mile "just for you". remember, unless the service was horrible, completely beyond reason, they are trying to do their best. It is on the other hand a job. everyone has to work. sometimes people have a bad day. i think it should be mandatory for everyone to work in a restaurant in order to graduate.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    That's unusual. I can't imagine why they wouldn't!

    My frined once gave 100 dollar top for a I wanna say $40 meal lol..

  • 1 decade ago

    Nuts. If someone is at a restaurant that serves people at tables/etc., they receive excellent service, the server was polite, and they found no reason to complain about out loud, then a tip is almost necessary. "Tip" actually comes from an acronym that means "to ensure promptness." If you don't pay, then you won't be served 'til doomsday, armageddon, or ragnorak.

    Rubbish.

    A tip is a kindly gift that means that the customer enjoyed the food, service, and everything else and thought of adding something to the server's paycheck. Fifteen percent is for an okay, good, or just plain tasty meal, twenty percent is the equivalent of saying "I loved the place and I will eat here for many times to come!" Higher is plain ridiculous, but if the restaurant was REALLY TRULY ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC, then you could leav twenty-five or thirty percent.

    Some people are just in the habit of not leaving a tip. Leaving something for good service is not prevelant in other countries (aren't you supposed to give excellent service anyways???), some people might expect higher from waiters/waittresses and want them to perform higher, some people don't have the dough, moolah, bucks, iron men, dead presidents, greenbacks, bills, checks, lire, pounds, pesos, dollars, or M & Ms to tip the server, and some people are just pains in the Equus asinus. (That means donkey, by the way.)

    Perhaps the money was stolen. Other pains in the Equus asinus steal, I mean STEAL, the tips from under the plates or beside the place-mat or whereever someone may put one.

    Last bet: some people have NO IDEA what the heck things cost these days. When I still read Captain Underpants comics, it said about real grandparents: "...and they don't know what things cost."

    "Here's a dime to buy a video game."

    "Thanks. (Sigh.)"

    The robot grandparents: "...and best of all, they don't know what things cost!"

    "Here's $10,000 to buy a candy bar!!!"

    That obviously is NOT true, but sometimes you run across a person who thinks gasoline still costs $0.95 a gallon. They may just not tip for that reason. OR they think the tip is in the paycheck, so they don't tip.

    -Your Eatery Expert

  • 1 decade ago

    I have known many servers in restaurants over the years. We have always given them very good tips anywhere form 25% to 50% of the bill. I know that must sounds crazy but I have always noticed that it is really a very hard job to be able to please customers (the eating public) and I have often seen sometimes that they take abuse from people.

    Most people will give a tip but in today's changing America. this is not the america that I knew years ago and at the risk of sounding politically incorrect. I have found that many newcomers (foreign immigrants) do not tip because maybe in their country it was not customary.

    I have spoken about this topic with a few truste servers of teh places where we often eat and they have said that certain ethnic (immigrant) groups generally tend not to really tip at all and so the place has automatically had to add a 20% service fee to the bill to insure that the server gets a tip.

    If this is not who the people were in your example then perhaps they were just insensitive but most longtime americans know that it is proper to give a tip of at least 15% nowadays with the cost of living so high it should be the custom to give at least 20%

    When I go to vacation in Fort Lauderdale in Florida many of the establishments automatically add the tip to the meal as a 20% service charge as there are large amounts of European tourists that come to Fort Lauderdale and in Europe (I know because I have travelled there) most times the guests do not leave a tip becasue they think the tip is included in the bill.

    that also could be another scenario as to what happened in your establishment on the particular day that you speak of.

    I hope this has added a different apsect to why that happened.

    Also I have learned to make sure that the server gets the tip right in his or her own hand as many times people have been known to walk by ands steal the money form the table before the server can get the money.

  • 1 decade ago

    i dont know why they didnt tip

    some people are just cheap and dont actually consider that waitresses dont make much beyond tips..

    some tourists may be used to the way things are in there homeland where perhaps servers are actually paid to serve rather than paid by customers

    i base my tips on 2 things: the service i receive and how many cutomers are in the place

    bc i know that if i am in a place for an hour or so and it is dead that basically her/his whole pay for that time period is what i give

    if the service is good i give 25% all the way up to 40 or 50%

    if the service is bad(and i have myself been a waitress), and they tried to make it better, 15%-20%

    if it was bad and they couldnt give a care which makes it worse, they dont get anything at all...

    in fact, i have not tipped anything to a very bad server who had attitude and tipped the waitress at the next table for at least smiling and trying to help

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  • 1 decade ago

    I too have been a server for a while, 5 years, and in 4 different states, and am now a manager in a popular Bar/Restaurant.

    SERVERS make $2.13/hr and no they won't be getting a raise with the rest of the country!

    i think that your server got screwed, but it happens to all of us from time to time... wtf did I do? , usually the answer is nothing.

    If somone can't afford their food and their service - GET TAKE OUT! or yeah, drive through-

    If a restaurant was expected to pay 30 servers a day $5.00 more an hour that cost would automaticaly be placed back on the consumer, so your $8.00 burger would soon cost you $11.00 , so I guess if people really don't want to tip than they can get ready to pay higher food costs.

    Also if your server wasn't expecting anything from you, and knew that they were making the same no matter how they treated you, they would not do anything special for you what-so-ever... they would not run all over the place to get everything for you, and they would never refill your drink, including that second or third beer you wanted. If you have been outside of the U.S. think about the service that you may of had somewhere else, when we were in Korea we had to flag down servers to get anything, and more often than not our drinks were empty more than half of the time- there it is rude to tip... (no offence to anyone in Korea- just needed a true example) ---

    POINT IN ALL THIS--- The table was terrible, not the server... and people need to learn to TIP or STAY HOME!

    Source(s): me - that girl that still can't spell ... sorry
  • 8
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    I never tip for just average service. A tip originated as something extra for doing something above and beyond the basics- something extra! Example- I always ask when ordering breakfast, that my OJ be brought out w/ my food so it will be cold. An IHOP waitress came right back after taking our order and said she had tried the OJ and it wasn't terribly cold, but she had put a glass in the freezer so that it would be when my food was ready. THAT is very tip worthy!!! I think we left a $15 tip for a $20 tab. Taking an order, serving it and leaving a bill just is expected service, not something a tip should be left for just because restaurants don't pay minimum wage. The wait staff knows that when they take the job, so they should be knocking themselves out to give EXROIDINARY service to each and every customer. It's their paycheck after all. Since the customer can't speak to the cook, it's the wait persons job to be the go between. If I order mayo or salad dressing on the side and it's on the food item, I don't leave a tip. The wait person should have caught that and never brought it to the table any other way. Also, if I nicely ask for fresh fries for example and they come out cold, I don't leave a tip. Most sane people won't send anything back these days for fear of someone spitting in their food, etc. I am not leaving a tip for cold food. As a manager, you need to check what is going out to your customers. Another example is a scortched baked potato. A manager needs to keep an eye on the freshness of the food. Also, there's nothing worse than getting a drink like a Pepsi that is supposed to be cold, paying $3 for it only to have it served in a still hot from the dishwasher glass. Another no tip guarantee for us is if, after waiting a long time to get a table and another long wait to get our order taken, the wait person goes to a table of 6 or more and spends 10 minutes explaining everything on the menu to them, before even taking our order to the kitchen. That's just lazy and I would think that backs up the cooks as well. A second one would have to be if the wait person complains about how busy they have been or says they are tired or even worse, sits with us in our booth, I don't leave a tip. On the later, I ask them to please get up. If you are paying good money for a relaxing dinner you don't want to hear them complain. So, you may believe these people received excellent service, A final note- if I see or hear a wait person complaining about the amount of a tip, or lack of one that a previous customer left, I don't forget that and would never leave that particular person a tip on subsequent visits no matter how great the service was. So, as a manager, you have the power to change all of the things I mentioned. You may think they received excellent service, but that is SO much more than the basics.

    AND, based on the answers above, most even leave a tip for crappy service, so where's the incentive for a wait person to do any better?

    Forgive typos- spell checker isn't working and I have an eye infection.

  • 1 decade ago

    Hey, some people are total jerks -- they are cheapskates. But many people simply are not able to leave a tip, no matter how "small", because of their financial situation. Yeah, I know..."If they can't afford to tip, they should stay home!" Well, if you really need the tips to "make ends meet", you should get a better job.

    I tip according to the server's politeness, accuracy and timeliness -- AND how much I can actually afford to part with. I have bills to pay, too, and I also need to get away from the stove/microwave once in a while.

    Tips should NEVER be included on the bill as an "automatic gratutity" (especially at 15% - imagine having to save for six months, and then having to pay out $22.50 on top of the $150 just because you wanted to treat your "significant other" to an Anniversary Dinner!)...they should be EARNED, not taken as granted just because you "work hard". Give great service, get good tips. It's that simple.

    And if you want stress....try getting an order for 1500 ATV plows delivered (not just shipped) less than two weeks after being told about the order -- when it normally takes three weeks to make 1500 ATV plows and get them ready for shipment. If the order doesn't arrive on time, you loose the account.... THAT is stress!

  • 1 decade ago

    A few reasons:

    1. They lack proper etiquette, and are idiots (most likely).

    2. They thought the prices were too high to tip.

    3. They didn't like the food, but didn't want to complain.

    4. Every place they enter has a tip jar begging to be stuffed, and they're finally fed up with tipping.

    5. They may believe that the employer should pay the servers' salaries, not the customers.

    Trust me, people have expressed one or more of these sentiments -- I know. I've never been a waiter, but as a customer I've sat across from some of the worst customers a waitress could have, while she was providing the best service in the world -- and felt sorry for her.

    Source(s): Sympathetic customer.
  • 5 years ago

    I agree with "the singer". As a server it is hard when we bust our butts catering to people and get nothing out if it. When we could have taken a table who would have tipped graciously. Most servers, depending on states, don't even get a paycheck, so they live off tips alone. Not getting a tip and getting small tips really hurts us financially. Thank you and your parents for the good head in your shoulders. As for your friends. They come and go. And you realize who your true friends are.

  • 1 decade ago

    Some people know that as a general rule in most places a server makes very good in tips by the end of their shift. Yes I have worked as a server and a cook for many years. My mother has always owned a restaurant. I know that even in a small town USA you can make anywhere from 60 to 100$ in tips. I realize that the server is running doing all the leg work but less we not forget that it is a combinded efford on the part of the sever and cook. Because of the knowlege that a server makes good tips and the fact you just have people that think they have paid enough for the food. Some people I feel are just too stingy to tip.

  • 1 decade ago

    I just wonder how many of the @sses answering this question have waited before. I personally think your server got screwed, but that's the nature of the beast. I just got off an 8 hour shift, and my percentages varied, but thats the way it goes.

    As some of the folks answering this question are concerned, wait tables for 6 months. Quit your job, and go to work. Then you will understand what life is like as a server. I work fine-dining at night and work another job in the day. If I don't want to leave a tip, I'll eat at God Damned McDonalds. Tipping is obviously expected, duh. If you don't like to tip, don't eat out. and you people that think you're martyrs for tipping 15, you're not, 15 is worthless. I much rather not get a table than get 15, I am worth alot more than that, but I am good at what I do...

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