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To fellow observant Catholics: Nuances on Lenten meat abstention?
If, like me, you observe meat abstention during Ash Wednesday and all Lenten Fridays, all are agreed that meat courses like steaks, burgers, chicken, and sausage pizza are out. But what say you on the following?
1. You're offered a slice of sausage pizza. Is it OK to pluck out the sausages and eat the resultant cratered cheese pizza? It will, of course, have remnant meat substance and flavoring.
2. You have pasta or chili with meat sauce. Is it OK to eat after you rake out the visible meat bits, realizing that there will almost inevitably be some hidden particles left in the food?
3. Last scenario: You have a can of beef or chicken soup with vegetables, rice, and what have you. Is it permissible to eat the soup and flavored broth if you spoon out the meat chunks?
Though, understandably, these situations may appear to some to be posed as absurd hair splitting or facetiousness, let me assure you that I'm asking in all seriousness.
Wow, thanks for all these thoughtful responses! I'm really liking this community.
Just to clarify, my primary intent isn't to cut corners or cheap out on religious observations during menu planning. I agree that the first choice should always be to do it up the right way, strictly meatless.
But I'm inquiring to learn about those emergent situations we run into from time to time. You're at work and your buddy in the next cube offers you the last piece of that pizza they're done with, but they ordered pepperoni. Or at dinnertime, your time constraints are such that you have to reheat leftovers, which happen to be pasta with meat sauce. All hypothetical today. We had fish sticks. ;)
8 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
I would say yes, yes, and yes, based on this:
"According to Father John Huels in The Pastoral Companion (Franciscan Herald Press), abstinence does not include meat juices and liquid foods made from meat. Thus, such foods as chicken broth, consomme, soups cooked or flavored with meat, meat gravies or sauces, as well as seasonings or condiments made from animal fat are not forbidden. So it is permissible to use margarine and lard.
"Huels states that even bacon drippings which contain little bits of meat may be poured over lettuce as seasoning. And Huels notes that no one considers gelatin or Jell-O to be meat."
Source(s): Since for some reason links are not working properly, replace spaces with / http://www.americancatholic.org/ Features lent faqle9902.asp - ?Lv 45 years ago
The previous rules forbidding ingesting meat on Fridays has no longer something to do with a pope possessing a fish save (now that's a fish tale if there ever became one!) the rule of thumb is or in no way became interior the Bible. It became a guy made rule created some time past by the Catholic Church, and hence abolished by the Catholic Church over the final 40 years. the assumption of ingesting fish is going back to Biblical days while unleavened bread and fish became the difficulty-unfastened meals plan between the folk. The Church theory that its human beings could desire to observe sooner or later a week to remind them that this became all Jesus ate and that it may be maximum blessed if Catholics could make the sacrifice and not consume meat sooner or later a week. it may advise a small inconvenience to us at present, yet meat became often the mainstay of the meals plan in the time of early medieval cases, or perhaps a small quantity could desire to be made right into a soup or stew and save a individual from starving. Take the beef away for even an afternoon, and it could have made somewhat a sacrificial result. What greater useful thank you to get the Catholic inhabitants decrease than administration and on an identical time, lead them to compensate for their sins?? As time went on, human beings have been finding different tips on a thank you to maintain them on Fridays, which includes ingesting eggs, cheese and peanut butter, to call some. So the absence of meat became no longer a sacrifice. human beings have been in basic terms finding tips on a thank you to get around the regulation and hence, the regulation no longer had any meaning. i could think of even the Pope made the distinction and observed no reason to maintain the regulation, so it became abolished.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Really...Is it so difficult to just smile and take a pass for a couple Fridays a year. Does one really need to eat around this desperately hungered for chili or chicken soup. I know of no one wishing to make, what at best is a minor sacrifice, make such a cheap effort as the scenerio your posing. I do however have elderly family (Greek Orthodox) who will gladly fast the entire Holy Week of Easter and nitpick during lent but with the opposite objective. Reading labels so as to present as pious an offering as possible.
respectfully
peace
- Atticus FinchLv 41 decade ago
I think you have to observe it to the best of your ability. You should probably NOT eat the meat sauces, because you know that you will ultimately be eating meat. I know that you're allowed to eat meat broths, but not the meat. If you get all pieces of meat of the pizza, I think it's okay, but if you know there's meat inside or something, you should probably skip it. I think some people go to far in their worries about abstinence and fasting, but you should try to not eat meat to the best of your ability without slacking. Does that answer your question?
A.F.
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- DaverLv 71 decade ago
Each of those scenarios leaves the possibility there is still meat content, of one form or another, in the food. Being aware of this possiblity, the best course of action is not to eat something unless you know for sure there is no meat in it.
- 1 decade ago
If you are giving up meat for the Lenten season, then you should do none of those things.
I'm sorry, but it's the truth.
Now go eat your fish and stop looking for loopholes :)!
(((Debra)))
- 1 decade ago
i would ignore the meat all together...
happy ash wednesday
;P
Source(s): that's just my opinion.... - 1 decade ago
No, no, and no.
I abstain from all meat and meat products.