Soldiers in Iraq?

Right now (as much as I hate to say it), there needs to be a military presense there just to police a country that doesn't know how to be a country. As for the death toll, here are numbers for Iraqi casualties due to the war:

Opinion Research Business (ORB) poll conducted August 12-19, 2007 estimated 1,220,580 violent deaths due to the Iraq War. A nationally representative sample of 1,499 Iraqi adults answered whether any members of their household (living under their roof) were killed due to the Iraq War. 22% of the respondents had lost one or more household members. ORB reported that "48% died from a gunshot wound, 20% from the impact of a car bomb, 9% from aerial bombardment, 6% as a result of an accident and 6% from another blast/ordnance."

On 28 January 2008, ORB published an update based on additional work carried out in rural areas of Iraq. Some 600 additional interviews were undertaken and as a result of this the death estimate was revised to 1,033,000 with a given range of 946,000 to 1,120,000.

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The Iraq Body Count (IBC) figure of 80,419 to 87,834 civilian deaths reported in English-language media (including Arabic media translated into English) up to 10 January 2008 includes civilian deaths due to coalition and insurgent military action, sectarian violence and increased criminal violence. The IBC site states: "it should be noted that many deaths will likely go unreported or unrecorded by officials and media." For the 4th year of the war between 20 March 2006 and 16 March 2007 the Iraq Body Count reported approximately 26,540 civilian deaths.

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The United Nations reported that 34,452 violent deaths occurred in 2006, based on data from morgues, hospitals, and municipal authorities across Iraq.

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The Lancet study's figure of 654,965 excess deaths through the end of June 2006 is based on household survey data. The estimate is for all excess violent and nonviolent deaths. That also includes those due to increased lawlessness, degraded infrastructure, poorer healthcare, etc.. 601,027 deaths (range of 426,369 to 793,663 using a 95% confidence interval) were estimated to be due to violence. 31% of those were attributed to the Coalition, 24% to others, 46% unknown. The causes of violent deaths were gunshot (56%), car bomb (13%), other explosion/ordnance (14%), air strike (13%), accident (2%), unknown (2%). A copy of a death certificate was available for a high proportion of the reported deaths (92 per cent of those households asked to produce one).

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Concerning war-related deaths (civilian and non-civilian), and deaths from criminal gangs, Iraq's Health Minister Ali al-Shemari said that since the March 2003 invasion between 100,000-150,000 Iraqis had been killed. "Al-Shemari said on Thursday [Nov. 9, 2006] that he based his figure on an estimate of 100 bodies per day brought to morgues and hospitals – though such a calculation would come out closer to 130,000 in total."

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Iraqi Health Ministry casualty survey for the World Health Organization. In January 2008 the Iraqi health minister, Dr Salih Mahdi Motlab Al-Hasanawi, reported the results of the "Iraq Family Health Survey" of 9,345 households across Iraq which was carried out in 2006 and 2007. It estimated 151,000 violence-related Iraqi deaths (95% uncertainty range, 104,000 to 223,000) from March 2003 through June 2006. Employees of the Iraqi Health Ministry carried out the survey. The results were published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

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Los Angeles Times: "At least 50,000 Iraqis have died violently"—as of June 2006. "Many more Iraqis are believed to have been killed but not counted because of serious lapses in recording deaths. ... The Los Angeles Times attempted to reach a comprehensive figure by obtaining statistics from the Baghdad morgue and the Health Ministry and checking those numbers against a sampling of local health departments for possible undercounts."

If we left it would be a complete disaster. Look what happened when the British troops pulled out and left their areas to the Iraqi Army and Iraqi Police; the areas were overtaken by insurgents in less than two days. And Iran's president has already stated his country would be "prepared to fill the vacuum" if US troops left. That's all we'd need. Things may not be peaches and cream right now; but pulling out is not the answer. Besides, it's a lot better than it was. We are making progress despite what the new is saying.

Why do you're saying our troops are killing harmless people? I somewhat have yet to pay attention something approximately an American Soldier strapping explosives to his physique and blowing up a industry crammed with Iraqi people... that's MUSLIMS doing that, and American infantrymen treating the wounded and helping freshen up after wards. i comprehend there have been errors made and a few innocents killed by potential of our troops, yet MUSLIMS kill extra harmless victims with one or 2 bombs than we've killed in 4 years of battling. i could like if we in simple terms pulled out and left them to kill one yet another if that's what they pick to do... and that's what they're going to do, historic past repeats... particularly whilst it includes non secular feuds. i'm sorry we interfered interior the genocide Saddam had planned for the Kurds and then the Shiites after that, possibly it could have been extra acceptable to enable that proceed. EDIT: i think of Muslims have been their own worse enemy interior the U. S. considering the fact that 9-11 befell. If Muslims had stood up early and denounced what befell it could have regarded trustworthy instead of self serving. instead they waited and whilst there became right into a backlash of public sentiment against Muslims... they finally stood up and denounced the violence, yet by potential of that factor it gave the impression to be a reaction to the backlash.

man i dont know about this one. it does seem that it is a losing battle - but it is kinda like this - say we offer to repair someone's roof, then when it takes ten times longer, and costs ten times nore than we thought - do we leave an unfinished job? especially when we said it was done a long time ago, when it wasn't?

as i said i dont know where i stand about this one, but perhaps this may give another side to the situation!

hope it helps

if the soldiers leave Iraq the civilian war would start.

Qaedah vs Almahdy army= more distroying

isnt it

More people were dying before the war..