Catholics, Whats wrong in this answer?

Catholicism started at Pentecost and not 300 years later. (Read the book of Acts for verification)

Tyndale created a heretical interpretation of the Bible and not for interpreting it into the vernacular language.

Catholics accept that Christ gave authority of the Church to the apostles with the bishopric of St. Peter the first among equals and the chief shepherd.

Catholics wrote the bible and believe that it is part of Sacred Tradition but that the Church is the final authority just as Christ created. Sola Scriptura is a heresy of men.

Catholics believe that the blessed mother of God and that she participated in the salvation of mankind by saying yes and cooperating with the atonement. She is blessed among women and of course human.

Catholics believe that priests act “in persona Christi” when delivering the Sacraments established by Christ to the faithful. We believe that Christ is the final mediator but that we may and are instructed in Scriptures to pray for each other to God and in doing so we all are mediators praying for each other. The blessed mother does the same out of love for us.

Christ’s Church does not teach to “recrucify” our Lord but that the Mass transcends time and place and that we are present at the one sacrifice for all mankind. We will do this until the Parousia as He commanded.

The blessed Mother is an eternal virgin and there is no evidence that she was anything else. If Jesus had siblings as Protestants proclaim in their heresy. Where are these descendants today?

We call our priests father because St. Paul instructed us to do so and the Protestant interpretation of Matthew 23:9 is an unscholarly eisegesis of Christ’s teaching.

Catholics do pray the rosary to focus on Christ’s passion and sacrifice for mankind. We also pray the “Our Father” as part of the Rosary prayer. Protestants misinterpret Christ’s prohibition against repetitive prayer as a prohibition against Christian prayer when it is actually speaking of a particular Pagan practice and was not referring to prayer to God. Jesus by example prayed repeatedly and proves by His example the Protestant error.

Protestants have no understanding of the communion of saints and the priesthood established by Christ through His apostles.

Celibacy is a discipline and not a doctrine and marriage is not forbidden as Protestants claim but actually encouraged. Celibacy is honored in the tradition of Christ and St. Paul as well as many throughout Church history. The Bible gives NO instructions that the clergy must be married.

Catholics know that St. Peter was married. Celibacy did not become a discipline of the Western Church until the 12th century. Today there are many married priests of which I am one.

Catholics do not worship images but God ONLY.

Catholics believe that the Church is the “pillar and ground of the truth” just as the Bible teaches and not the Bible although the Bible is a part when interpreted through the Church as Christ and the Church intended when it was written.

Jesus was the Paschal Lamb prophesied; therefore it is necessary that Jesus was born without original sin. The blessed mother of God was preserved without sin for this purpose.

Catholics believe mankind is justified by faith. We just do not believe that we are justified by faith alone and the protestant heresy teaches.

Catholics believe that Jesus is the cornerstone and the disciples are the foundation stones of the Church. Of those twelve stones on which the church is built, St. Peter is the first among equals and the supreme shepherd of the Church. This is the teaching of our Lord and Savior as protected by His Church.

Catholics do NOT worship the blessed mother of God but God only. The Catechism of the Catholic Church forbids worship of anyone or anything but God.

As you can see the reason for the thumbs down was for all the lies and misinformation being spread out of hatred for Christ’s Church and for no other reason. Had the truth been told there would have been thumbs up instead of down.

In Christ

Fr. Joseph

I am just going to start with this one cause it is the first problem i can see, but i am one who does not like long answers, just FYI, they seem like road hogs, not letting other people in to have their opinion on the page.

<<Catholics adhere to the Pope as the vicar of Christ.

Catholic Encyclopedia, "Vicarius Christi"

Christians believe that the Bible is the final authority.

2 Timothy 3:16>>

This is inaccurate because of the way he worded it. As if we put the Pope above Holy scripture. We don't. The pope does not put himself above scripture but is a true man of the Word of God. A vicar is a representative, similar to an ambassador.

He would be more accurate to say on your second point that protestants never bother to find out what tradition we are talking about. Since scripture was not written or decided upon until about 400 ad, there is a lot of teaching and writing that went into the compilation of scripture and many decisions made and documents kept that made the church and the liturgy what it is today. These traditions and later decisions about additions to the church that were guided by the Holy Spirit and for those who are skeptical we have the documentation of who sought God and how God confirmed these things.

On the rest i must just defer to Gamaliel who said: "38Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God." You can read the rest in Acts 5

By the way, thanks for giving us enough credit to ask than believe the lies. This shows that you are a man after God's heart.

Where to start. Thanks for asking, i guess it shows that you at least hope that all this crap is dubious at best.

It is indeed a load of crap, to start off with, Just becuase the Roman Catholic and orthodox churches did not have any name but Christian at first does not mean that they are not the first Christians. If you go to any Orthodox or Catholic mass you will see the Jewish roots of the mass in every prayer, the altar, the sacrifice, the way that candles and water and oil is used.

The Jewish roots of our churches are obvious if you know your Bible and the ancient ways of Jewish worship. If you visit a place like New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia online, you will find some of the docuements that predate the bible that tell about the church and its founders.

When The new beleivers went out from jerusalem newly filled with the Holy Spirit, it was just the beginning of the church and from there they began to learn what God wanted for worship, sacraments, baptism, the ministry and on and on, these things are all documented in "tradition".

<<I do not believe in the idols... it does not represent anything to me...>> And the Roman Catholic Church does not believe in idols either. Either you aren't Catholic or very misinformed. Anyone who worships something other than God is committing idolatry. But statues are not idols, you need to learn what an idol is. <<"The city of Babylon surrounded by seven hills" i searched for it a lot... found references about US being it and some other places...>> Of course, there are thousands of Anti-Catholic sites out there that will make everything into us. <<but yesterday, i found it to be ROME!! it was also called the city of seven hills in ancient times..>> Revelations is not all about the end times. If you read through Revelations, you will see there is a cycle of going up into Heaven and back to earth. This cycle happens, I believe, 6 times. We know that ancient Rome was called Babylon because of the amount of paganism going on there. Peter says multiple times "Hail from Babylon". But this doesn't mean that because the Vatican is in Rome that it is therefore the city of Babylon. You are missing the whole point of Revelations. <<In the revelations its said that, the antichrist will be from the city of the seven hills, babylon i guess!!>> It did? Even though you can't find the word "Antichrist" anywhere in Revelations? Also, the Vatican doesn't sit upon any of the hills of Rome and it is technically it's own state. It is not part of Rome. <<its on the news, everywhere catholic priests havin sex with nuns, smoking, drinking...>> Okay, now I know you aren't Catholic. It's on the news everywhere that Catholic priests are having sex with nuns??? Yes, there have been some, but there are more reports of men cheating on their wives than priests sleeping with nuns. Should I then decide that all men are cheaters? Also, smoking and drinking aren't against the Bible or God. It is only when you drink in excess that it becomes a sin--that is when you get drunk. So I'm going to say you aren't a Catholic at all. You don't know a single thing about the Catholic Church except what Anti-Catholic sites say. Oh, and on the Anti-Christ... There is more evidence that the Anti-Christ will be of Jewish decent because: 1. He claims to be the Messiah and to be accepted as such, he would have to be from the Jewish line. 2. St. Paul says that the temple of God will become the seat of desecration. The temple of God was the Jewish temple that was destroyed in 70 A.D. The main belief (from the earliest Christians) was that the Anti-Christ will rebuild the Jewish temple and claim to be God. Please read more than garbage found on the internet. Pick up a Catechism and see what the Catholic Church teaches and believes.

I'm Catholic. Most likely it was Catholics who thumbed downed this answer as it is obvious from first sentence that the answerer knows little about the Catholic Church is therefore biased. Protestants reject us as fellow Christians so they care little about seeing our point of view and accept only their own answers to "Catholic" truth.

I didnt bother reading pass the first sentence...I've heard it all before. If someone says Catholics worship Mary, the Saints and the Pope you can take that to mean they hate us.

His answer misinforms and contains caricatures of Catholic beliefs. These are common accusations and I think there are too many to answer in one question in this format. And most of these are probably answered pretty well at some point in yahoo answers. I think we should go by only one or two topics at a time.

it is a rehashing of stereotypical anti catholic propaganda deciminated by Jack Chick, Bob Jones, Tim LaHaye, etc.

If you don't want to believe Catholics are Christians, that is your perogative, but when you twist the truth to try and fool others with your lies, then you are a follower of the Father of Lie, Satan, no matter how loudly you proclaim your *christianity*.

If you want to know what Catholics believe buy a copy of Catholicism for Idiots, don't go to idiot anti catholic sites and think you have found truth.

*Is Catholic*

It is a load as anybody who studied history could tell you.

First of all what makes a Christian a Christian is that they have been made sons and daughters of God through a trinitarian baptism. A man can claim to be whatever but God alone determines if He will make a person an adopted son or daughter. This is done through baptism, which is a free gift from God, and is something that man cannot bring about himself, or merit. All other views on what makes a Christian a Christian is pure works based religion.

Point by point

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No Catholicism came with Constantine. If anything, the first believers in Yeshua were Messianic Jews.>>>>

Not true. Catholicism, the word usage is 107 AD a full 200 years before Constantine. If you read Pope Clement I's letter to the Cornthians (read 1 and 2 Cornthians in scripture first) written while the Apostle John was still alive you will find it to be congruent with Catholic beliefs of today not Protestant beliefs.

>>>Both Catholic and Roman Catholic religions are considered a sect of Christianity. >>>

Again not true. Catholicism is the mother religion because it came first. Protestants are not a sect of Catholicism because they broke away and repudiated much of the Catholic faith. Protestants are Christians if they have a baptism, but the faith is heretical because it denies it.

>>>>Why else did they burn other Christians for just wanting to interpret the Latin Bible into English and German? >>>

Again not true. There are English and German Catholic bibles prior to Protestantism. Most people couldn't read and those that did read Latin so there was very little need for vernacular translations. Those that taught scripture to people could read latin and they translated into the vernacular on the fly. Also more Catholics got killed by Protestants than the other way around. The people that got burned at the state in Catholic countries got so for being insurectionists against the state and general troublemakers. In the modern world where there are lots of books and the internet, it is easy to tell who is lying. When you dont have a lot of books and everybody goes by word of mouth and hardly anyone has any education in reason, it is easy to be a trouble maker and trouble makers felt the ire of the state.

>>>>For example, William Tyndale was tried on a charge of heresy in 1536 and condemned to the stake for translating the New Testament into the common man's English. Tyndale was burned alive on 6 October 1536.>>>

Do you catch what was actualy said? William Tyndale was tried on a charge of heresy. He was not condemned for translating the NT but for the heresy that he taught. The Church did not burn him, the state did.

>>>>Catholics adhere to the Pope as the vicar of Christ.

Catholic Encyclopedia, "Vicarius Christi"

Christians believe that the Bible is the final authority.

2 Timothy 3:16>>>>>>

Very few Protestants, even fundamentalists believe scripture is final authority. Scripture is not self interpretating...you need a set of philosophical presuppositions to interprete scripture just as for anything else. For example if you believe that scripture is the final authority it is rather your own flawed reason that is saying that because scripture does not say that it is the final authority anywhere.

The authority of the Pope is multi layered. Part of the authority of the Pope is called the Petrine Powers. These are arbitrational, that is they can determine what is true and what is false. Think of it as a special form of the charism of the discrnment of spirits. This allows the Pope to determine which way of interpretating scripture is the correct way. As anything which can determine the interpretation of something is of a greater authority than the thing, the Pope, in certain instances of interpretating scripture, has more authority than scripture. But it is important to understand that the Pope and Scripture both are united in the same Spirit and that there is not to be seen a conflict between either of them and they work in concert in teaching Christ to the world.

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Catholic tradition is of equal authority with the Bible.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

Christians believe traditions of man cause error.

Matthew 15:3

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Scripture is a form of Tradition, specificaly it is the inerrant inspired written experiance of the lived relationship with the One God. Tradition preceeds scripture and the writing of scripture describes the tradition that was already believed. Scripture doesn't tell us what to believe, rather it tells us what was believed so that we might believe.

The traditions of man cause error, however the traditions of the Church do not because they do not come from man but from the Holy Spirit who is the soul of the Church. The Church is also the Mystical Body of Christ so that her traditions are also those of Christ and fulfill the will of Christ as well as continue the mission that Christ was given by the Father.

Protestants like the one in question have left this sure tradition for those of their own making. Remember Luther did not have a revelation of God, there was no choir of angels singing to him. His teachings are his own, they are mans. Same goes for the rest of the Protestants. Study them.

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Catholics adhere to Mary as a co-regent of Jesus.

UBI PRIMUM, (On the Immaculate Conception of Mary), Encyclical of Pope Pius IX

Christians beleive that Mary was blessed, but only human.

Luke 11:27-28

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Mary was only human and is only human. The word though is CO-REDEMPTRIX not co regent. What does this guy believe that Christ was a regent???? Mary though is the perfect human and there never was nor will be any greater than her. If one does not understand Christ they will not understand Mary. If one wishes to understand Christ, they should understand Mary.

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Catholics believe that priests or Mary are mediators.

OCTOBRI MENSE (On the Rosary), Encyclical of Pope Leo XIII

Christians believe there that only Jesus is Mediator.

1 Timothy 2:5

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That is a missunderstanding of those scripture verses. Jesus Mediatorship is different than the mediatorship of priests. I am sure that this person believes in "the priesthood of all believers" which if you read that says that people act in a mediatorial role. If you believe that, it isnot hard to understand how priests are mediators in a special sense.

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Transubstantiation recrucified Christ at the communion.

Council of Trent Pg. 347, #1376,

Christians believe Christ died just once.

Hebrews 6:6

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That is not the understanding of transubstantiation. Christ died once. The Blessed Sacrafice of the Altar at the Catholic Mass is not a bloody sacrafice but an unbloody sacrafice. It is not the dead Christ that is offered but rather the glorified Christ. Christ is the lamb both living and dead as Revelation speaks of.

John 6:66 those that do not believe that it is necessary to eat and drink the flesh and blood of Christ to have eternal life fall away into confusion and darkness.

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Catholics believe Mary was a perpetual virgin.

Protoevangelium of James], Patrology, 1:120–1 and many sources

Christians believe the Bible that He had siblings.

Mark 6:3

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This shows a terrible understanding of Greek as well as the lineage that is setup in scripture. Mary was always a virgin because she was. All early Christians believed that. Look it up.

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Catholics call their priests "father".

Started with St. Benedict referring to confessors as "abbot" from "abba"

Catholics call their teachers "pastor" or "minister".

Matthew 23:9

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Wow that old canard. If you really want to understand what Jesus said in Matthew you need to understand Pharaceeism. Besides St. Paul calls himself "Father" in scripture several times.

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Catholics pray repetitive words with Rosary Beads.

Catholic Encyclopedia, Ingruentium Malorum

Christians pray the same as they speak.

Matthew 6:7

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Again total lack of understanding as to what "repetitive" meant.

If one does not pray with wrote prayers one will never advance beyond very low levels of prayer. There is a need to break the reliance on one's self and to turn to God in a fuller manner. You can only do this by stoping the verbage and dying to self by picking up and meditating on these wrote prayers. Contemplation requires focus which comes about by stoping the stream of conscience verbal prayers (both vocal and the interal voice) and turning inward though the useage of prayers that force the intellect and memory into a pattern that can focus.

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Pope canonizes those to be called "saints".

Caractéristiques des Saints (Paris, 1867)

Christians believe all who believe are saints.

Philippians 1:1

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Different word meanings.

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Pope (through bishops) decides who is "priest" in church leadership.

Council of Nicaea I, canon 18

Christians believe all who believe are a priesthood.

1 Peter 2:5

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There are different priesthoods. There is the priesthood of all believers and there is the Melchesidek priesthood. In Judiasm there were two priesthoods, the Levidical and the Aaronite btw.

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Celibacy is enforced on priests and bishops.

Bishops Committee on Priestly Life, page

Sometimes thumbs down are because long-winded answers are a waste of time and space. Ver few actually read them.

If someone can get better at concise and to the point answers (on a fast moving forum like this at least), they'd avoid thumbs down given for that reason alone.

the problem, I believe, is the assertion that "No[,] Catholicism came with Constantine."