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Why do ships sink into whirlpools and people fly up into tornados?
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[Sorry Scythian for asking another fluid dynamics question]
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Alexander is only part of the way there. There is an upward vector on people and a downward vector on the ship. Why?
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Didn't actually mean the ship sinking, but going down in elevation towards the center of the whirlpool. (At which point the ship floods and sinks).
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Hint: If you have a glass of tea with one tea leaf at the bottom and a small cork at the surface, and you swirl the glass, both the tea leaf and the cork will move towards the center.
The inward drift at the bottom of the glass and the movement of the cork are caused by two different phenomena.
Here is a video of a ball in a whirlpool. Notice how fast it gets sucked down and how comparatively little water goes with it. [Note: unlike the video, the whirlpool is caused simply by the water's rotation, not by a drain.] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WrNrjRNJ5w&feature...
What is the path of the fluid? It can't all be going towards the vortex. Why do objects in a tornado defy gravity, while objects in a whirlpool succumb to gravity?
Note: In the above hint, it should read that unlike the video, the whirlpool in the hypothetical is not caused by a drain. In other words, the hypothetical is a closed system
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- AlexanderLv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
Bernoulli principle. And conservation of angular momnetum.
Imagine a cylindrical portion of air contained in hollow cylineder between radii R and R+ΔR. Lets say it has specific angular momentum per unit mass M. As this air enters the tornado core the radius shrinks to r, momnetum is rougly conserved and tangential velocity is increased by factor R/r.
Increase in velocity means decrease in pressure. Everything in the vicinity gets sucked up inside.
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A gust of wind 200mph ~ 100m/s ~ 0.3Mach creates sucking pressure about 1atm* Mach² ~ 0.1atm ~ 1000kg/m². No wonder a person with cros-section are of about 0.5m² is easily sucked in.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
♠ whirlpool has low pressure in the eye; the solved air turns into bubbles decreasing density of water; with buoyancy decreasing the ships sink;
♣ this is the only real reason why Bermuda waters are notorious; cold and warm currents meet, the cool water warms + low pressure, the density decreases (as if water boils up); the level of whirlpool is not visibly lowered – some 10 meters in a radius of one km perhaps;
♣ there’s another case of whirlpool mentioned as úlovo in rivers with strong currents; the stronger current the more slope; but people are drowned because of panic mostly; an experienced swimmer just dives the deeper the better, then swims under the water as far as possible to emerge in a safe place; (merde! whom am I talking to!?)
- Anonymous1 decade ago
hmmmmm......
What happens to objects at the bottom of a whirlpool? Or at the top of a tornado?
I hadn't really thought about this one too much because I've been so busy............The more I think about it, well, the more I try to figure out what the key difference is. Unfortunately, I need to get going.
Great question.
- 1 decade ago
Because when a whirlpool starts it starts in the water so it suck you sown into the water, and when a tornado starts it starts in the clouds in the sky, so it pulls you toward the the clouds or sky. Just guessing
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- 1 decade ago
well if a person was in a whirlpool they would go down too juast as a ship does and if a ship was in a tornado it would go up just as a person would, its just different forces whirl pools are a force that pull you down and a tornado is just like a lot of wind... .and just like a little wind can blow around a piece of paper alot of wind can blow around a person
- 1 decade ago
im guessing because you are on top of a whirlpool when you go down into it and you are at the bottom of a tornado when you fly up into it. but im just guessing.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
a whirlpool is just swirling water, so gravity pulls it down (like toilet water down a drain).
A tornado is kind of an updraft, so the air pulls you up.
- 1 decade ago
maybe because a whirlpool is some kinda downward force of matters, while tornadoes are upward forces of, well, debris and stuff, and both have loads of energy in it.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
because a wirlpool spins the opposite way a tornado does whitch means it pulls its force downwards