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Is Texas' seizing of 400 FLDS children constitutional?
I have recently learned that the 16 year old caller who tipped officials off to child abuse in the FLDS sect didn't and/or does not reside on the Compound to begin with. Also, the man being charged with Child abuse, who is supposedly her husband, doesn't even live in Texas.
Look, I'm not saying that this sort of abuse isn't happening. If there are men who are abusing children like this, lock them up. But does a single phone call justify the blanket rounding up of an entire community with no evidence of wrongdoing (aside from polygamy). Is it constitutional to ship people to detention centers because of their Religion, if the Child Abuse charge cannot be validated in each case?
I thought people were innocent until Proven Giulty. Are we going to break up families for a sake of a faulty source? Shouldn't they be able to tell the world their side of the story?
Something about this whole incident just doesn't feel right to me.
7 Answers
- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Unfortunately, in Texas, removing the child from the home is part of the first steps of the due process in child protective issues.
In the worst cases, this immediately removes the child from an abusive situation, while the case workers gather their evidence.
However, more often than not, children have been removed from homes on accusations of neglect, where none were found. And in East Texas, where I reside, I know of many times when a call to CPS was nothing more than a form of revenge....because it's so disruptive and doesn't require any real abuse taking place.
And in the cases of these compound families, they need to be investigated, not as a whole but on a family by family basis. Why should a person lose custody of their child, just based solely on the assumption that a polygamist household automatically breeds child abuse, rape and neglect.
When we hear the words "polygamist compound" we automatically dredge up charges of statutory rape and enslavement...but have you ever noticed that there are usually hundreds of families in these compounds, and only a fraction are actually charged with child abuse charges?
I'm not saying that abuse doesn't happen, but only that it's not neccesarily prevailant in ALL cases of polygamy. and that illegalizing multi partner relationships is causing more harm then good.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
You can work wonders on the mind of a child by saying things like you will be sent to hell if you do this, or you will not go to heaven unless you do this. There are plenty of places just like this place in texas that use religion as a control tool on children. It is very easy to scare the daylights out of a child that way, and they do it.
Child abuse has become such a problem, that we are forced to have zero tolerance for it. This situation does seem a little weird, but honestly Im glad they got those children out of there. There are so many places that are just like this, and children should never be forced into marriage.... what comes after marriage is sex and then babies... and most of these children are pre-teens forced into marriages to people four times their age..... not good.
- ?Lv 45 years ago
CPS broke Texas regulation while they took all 460+ infants without investigating them in my view. specific, I scent a lawsuit coming and that i does not blame the YFZ Ranch individuals in the event that they did record a lawsuit yet regrettably it does not be the state paying up each and all the money, it may be us tax payers right here in Texas that ought to foot the invoice. i'm advantageous that Texas will locate some thing that they'd advance our taxes directly to conceal each and all the charges of their mistake. there's no information or information that those infants have been being abused, a number of them would have been abused by one or 2 persons yet that keeps to be no excuse to take over 460 infants from there father and mom. It concerns me that they could do some thing like that. If my around the corner neighbor grew to become into abusing their newborn, could they eliminate my newborn additionally simply by fact I stay in an identical community? i think of that some human beings could have been out to get this community of human beings basically simply by fact they don't consider their existence form and non secular ideals. CPS did not basically take infants, they took grown women. They held a 22 3 hundred and sixty 5 days previous female captive claiming that she grew to become into 15 years previous. They ultimately admitted that she grew to become into in certainty 22 a week after she gave delivery and then they stole her infant. She did not abuse her newborn nor did everybody else, so why grew to become into it taken faraway from her? additionally, the adult men provided to flow away the ranch and enable the ladies and young ones stay there without them whilst CPS performed their study yet CPS and the state refused.
- paulLv 71 decade ago
What isn't right is using religion to wall off these children from public scrutiny then to molest and force marriage on some. I wouldn't want to deny religious freedom, but some beliefs and practices are unacceptable in America. We need to decide what those are and how to prevent them. The police had to wait until they had more than hearsay of abuses going on in the compound and even if the caller was not a valid case it did allow a police raid and subsequent evidence of wrongdoing to be found.
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- bgee2001caLv 71 decade ago
If indeed it is felt by child welfare officials that their environment is dangerous to their physical, or mental health, it is no only constitutional under various laws, it is the prudent thing to do.
This action was not taken lightly, and I would rather see an error made on the side of right, which can later be rectified if that is the case, than one child suffer another incident of abuse.
- 1 decade ago
Child protection laws are very strict, if a child might be in an environment where they can be put in harms way they can be removed quiet easily.
- In God We TrustLv 71 decade ago
I totally agree with you. Yet the homeless, those without clothing, food and every need in America, are still pushed aside, to take care of foreign interests. America always does what is convenient for its own whims. God bless and guide us all down the correct path. Peace!!!