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Claude D asked in SportsAuto RacingNASCAR · 1 decade ago

Lucky dog rule by Nascar is ok, but part of it is not fair, see details and let me know if you agree?

the part of the rule that is not fair, is the part where the first driver a lap down does not get the lucky dog pass if he is involved in the caution, It should be modified to say ( unless the caution is caused by the second man down. here is why.

In Texas 2 weeks ago, Newman was the first man down to get the lucky dog pass, Biffle was the second man down, Biffle then hit Newman in the left back fender of the car, causing Newman to spin out of control, Caution is out and Newman is denied the lucky dog pass cause he is involved in the caution, they then give the lucky dog pass to Biffle, If this rule is not modified, you will start seeing the second man down, purposely spinning out the first man to to cause a caution and the second man gets the lucky dog, Looks to me like Biffle has that already figured out, and spun Newman out on purp[ose.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    I agree, NASCAR should change the rule. I never thought about it, but its true.

  • Rick31
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    You have pointed out the major flaw in the rule. Biffle obviously knew this loophole and used it to his advantage denying Newman the free pass. Jeff Gordon also said that it would be best to put the lucky dog directly ahead of the leader on the tail end of the lead lap and if he can stay ahead of the leader until the next caution then he can get back with the lead lap cars. I have never liked this rule.

  • 1 decade ago

    Although it may have been on purpose, or may not have been... that arguement will have to be answered seperately.

    However, the reason why Biffle happened to get that paticular pass was the fact that by the rules of NASCAR he had PASSED the car that was on the track in front of him in positions. (Meaning that while Newman is in the process of spinning out of control he is 'passed' by Biffle.)

    Therefore when NASCAR decided that time had come to put out the yellow flag, Biffle's position was the first car a lap down and therefore he automatically got the 'lucky dog'.

    However the better way to improve the 'lucky dog' rule would be to combine old-school with new. Let the flag come out, everyone continue to race to the start/finish line like the days of old, THEN after that's done take the first car down and use the 'lucky dog' rule. This would make it more harmful for someone to 'wall' another driver for the risk of being involved as well and loosing his spot by the time they get back to the finish line.

  • tom p
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Yes, it would seem that there is the proverbial loophole in the Lucky Dog Rule.

    But, don't be surprised if NASCAR didn't already know about it.

    They have made it clear that they will not tolerate "aggressive driving". Biff got away with this one.

    The rule also states that the car that "caused the caution" is not eligible to receive the free pass. That is entirely up to the NASCAR officials to decide WHO caused the yellow.

    I bet they park a few drivers before long, or hand out big penalties for doing this.

    Source(s): But I digest..... Just my 2 cents.
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  • 1 decade ago

    I don't think Biffle wrecked him on purpose and further more if these drivers second down start doing this, NASCAR will just penalize them for rough driving. This is a non-issue in my opinion. We've had this rule for what 3 or 4 years now and we just haven't seen this happening and causing wide spread problems.

  • 1 decade ago

    I agree I think that you do open another pandoras box if you let Nascar make some more of there "judgement calls". It would be tuff if multiple cars were involved and it was not as cut and dry as what you mentioned. It is something to look at especially if we started seeing this happen a lot!!!

  • 1 decade ago

    I completely agree with you. Between this "lucky (spinner) dog" rule and the top 35 rule this sport is becoming a bunch of BS politics.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    you will have been following it for a whilst.. by way of fact the guideline took an prolonged time to conform.. the guideline was that when the warning got here out, you have been nonetheless racing till you reached the beginning up/end line.. vehicles a lap down might attempt to conquer the chief to the line, to get there lap returned.. This became right into somewhat risky, yet worked ok.. at cases the chief might sluggish to enable a teammate returned on the lead lap, yet no person complained, by way of fact the drivers had a "gentleman's settlement" to no longer race one yet another as quickly as the flag became into out.. faster or later various the drivers greatest the race began to pass somewhat overboard whilst it got here to assisting teammates, and slowed sufficient to enable 5, or six vehicles in front of a teammate returned on the lead lap.. NASCAR did no longer like this, so as that they made a rule that reported, for a vehicle to get his lap returned via passing the chief, they had to be in close sufficient proximity to the chief whilst the flag got here out.. This worked for a whilst, yet NASCAR had to take returned laps from some that NASCAR reported did no longer meet this new requirement.. It became a tug of conflict.. At one specific race, a vehicle had spun coming off turn 4 (DJ), blocking off part of the song.. by way of fact the vehicles got here visiting, and reached the bottleneck it looked like there could be hassle, yet there wasn't.. NASCAR used this as an excuse to enforce a plan that they were engaged on.. the only in modern-day use.. They reported it became into for "protection motives".. even nevertheless the final time something had happened racing to the warning became into in June 88, whilst Bobby Allison have been given heavily injured at Pocono, and Judy his spouse berated NASCAR for permitting them to race returned to the flag, yet NASCAR did no longer something to restoration it on the time.. as a fashion to make up for freezing the sphere, and not letting vehicles get a lap returned, they threw the drivers a bone (pardon the pun), and gave them the loose pass.. Benny Parsons gave it a nickname, calling it the "fortunate canines", and it caught.. The final straw for NASCAR became into particularly whilst a properly-liked driving force used the warning to make a pass for the lead.. no longer Jr.. lol

  • 1 decade ago

    I agree with u 100 % and u r right, The Biff new exactly what he was doing and didn't he finish in the top 5?

    GO # 9 Kasey kahne

  • 1 decade ago

    You really have noi clue do you?

    Try to imagine cars in the middle of the back spending more time driving in there mirror while being passed by real racers with position. You should lose your "Guy Card" for such a

    lame comment.

    Mike

    Speedway,Indiana

    Source(s): Because I know!
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