Where are people getting thi info from? (Hills Pet Foods)?

This is the 'puppy' food my vet sent home with the first well-puppy check.

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/product_detail....

Ingredients:

Corn meal, chicken by-product meal (including white meat, dark meat, liver and other internal organs), soybean meal, animal fat (preserved with BHA, propyl gallate and citric acid), dried beet pulp,.

I didn't see anything I would eat in there, except "cornbread".

I couldn't imagine feeding it to a Chihuahua under two pounds..Would you?.

I saw this on another veterinary site, and thought you should ask these questions to the company you recommend. By the way, we recommend Royal Canin, Hills and Purina prescription diet. I know their answeres to all these questions, do you? 1) Do I have experience with the product. 2) Does the company have a veterinary nutritionist working specifically for them. 3) What is their quality control and monitoring (not available to all but I have a very good assessment of it) 4) Do they make the product or co-pack? 5) Do they know everything about their products? Can I call and ask them what the selenium level of product x is and not only do they know (most small companies don't), they will tell me right then. I can tell you this is a real biggie for me. If I call and can't get nutrition info - I won't recommend the food. 6) Do they feed the diet to animals within the companies facility. Small companies may or may not do feeding trials and if they do it is almost always at another location. Their nutritionist may not have seen a group of dogs or cats that ate that diet for any lenght of time. 7) Does the company do nutrition releated research (I know then are up on the issues and contributint to the science).

OK, you can see that chicken is the first ingredient, but you have to remember this is DRY food. Ingredients are listed in order of content, but once the water content is removed from the meat, it's no longer the most common ingredient. And if you look at the second ingredient, you'll see it's corn, followed by chicken/meat meal (which is really just leftovers from human food production). Most people reference this site: http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com./

I doubt they would change the ingredients from country to country. I think alot of people just know that their pets won't eat it or they think they know of a better food so they make up stuff. Sometimes I'm suprized at the number of misinformed people on here. I just read somewhere where a person said that once a dog get the taste of blood in its mouth you can't trust it. Blood has nothing to do with a dog biting. Also some one in the cat forum keeps saying that dry food causes health problem because cats are supposed to get most of their water from their food. I've never had a cat get sick from only eating dry. It's all I feed mine and ours usually live long happy lives. Wet cat food is the problem. My vet tells people all the time that wet food is like fast food for pets. Very fattening.

The second and last one are cat food. They do not commonly have high cereal grain content, even so, these both have corn and soy products as ingredients. The first one, the puppy food, lists the second ingredient as "ground maize", listed only after Chicken, which, as it is not a meal, is inclusive of water content and should rightfully be placed further down the ingredient list. It also contains "maize gluten meal" (byproduct and corn product) and "digest" (byproduct), and "dried beet pulp" (poor quality filler byproduct). The third, the second ingredient is also "ground maize", listed only after Chicken, which, as it is not a meal, is inclusive of water content and should rightfully be placed further down the ingredient list. It also contains "dried beet pulp" (byproduct, low quality filler) and "digest" (byproduct).

Apparently you have been duped by the listing of chicken first, even though the listing is not accurate, since it includes water content (note the corn is a ground product, which does not include water). Cooked chicken is 71% waterhttp://waltonfeed.com/self/h2ocont.html , since it generally loses water during cooking, raw chicken would have an even higher water content. Also check out http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/ I find that their reviews are comprehensive, common sense, and were useful in choosing a quality food for my dogs.

Hills A/D ingredients - Water, Pork Liver, Poultry Liver, Chicken, Corn Flour - why are they adding Corn Flour? Dogs cannot digest the protein in corn.

G/D - Brewers Rice, Chicken By-Product Meal, Ground Whole Grain Corn, Dried Egg Product, Pork Fat - Chicken by product and whole grain corn?

I/D - Ground Whole Grain Corn, Brewers Rice, Dried Egg Product, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Pork Fat - I/D is for dogs with digestive problems - the corn is probably what caused the problems to begin with.

W/D for dogs with diabetes - Ground Whole Grain Corn, Powdered Cellulose 17.1% (source of fiber), Chicken by-product Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Soybean Mill Run, Corn Gluten Meal, Soybean Oil, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Meal

Powered cellulose - yummmm. Corn, corn products, and soybeans.

Science Diet for puppies - Ground Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal, Soybean Meal, Animal Fat

Where's the meat?

SD Natures Best Puppy food (this is their best stuff for puppies) Lamb, Soybean Meal, Lamb Meal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Brown Rice, Pork Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Brewers Rice, Dried Egg Product, Powdered Cellulose, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor... Great, lamb is number 1, but what is up with the soybean meal and Powered Cellulose?

Granted, its not the worst dog food, but It still has corn and corn gluten. just fillers that dogs dont need. There are FAR better dog foods to feed than that.