Challenging masculinity: male-on-male sexual harassment?

I think that last quote makes a lot of sense. I know I've read about under-reporting of male on male rape due to embarrassment, and it makes sense that reporting of rape or sexual harassment would increase as the culture changed. At least in my workplaces in academia, the culture has changed a lot. We didn't talk about sexual harassment in the 70s, it was something taken pretty seriously in the 80s, but we never got to the point of mandatory attendance at workshops about sexual harassment until the last few years.

Supremely Loaded question,If I may have two parts to this answer? First , How Dare any person or persons of any time ,race culture , or belief Assault another human being in such a manner .. If I was the Judge on that trial I would try to have them splayed by a Cat of Nine Tails .. and then thrown into prison for 5 years for aggravated assault ..As for the Gay or not to be Issue I have had many Gay Friends over the Years and I put It to them straight out ,, Isn't this all a result of and the relief thereafter of being able to have sex and not worry about commitment, responsibility, children ,, that type of thing .. Their response was ,, Well now that you know why dont you join us .. No thanks Ill stay married ,And I'm not a Biblethumper or any other such nonsense

I don't think there is any more harassment than ever before, but I do think the younger men are taught that they don't have to put up with this type of behavior, I think they are taught that this type of behavior is wrong and should not be tolerated.

In some ways I suppose this is good because if a person is truly offended by what has been traditionally male attitudes, well they don't have to take it.

On the other hand, most of the time there is nothing meant by this type of behavior. In my line of work, primarily a male oriented field, and one in which you have to have a thick skin, be a little bit on the tough side to do the job. When we have to deal with someone that would be offended by locker room antics, all of us become uncomfortable around the individual, and we feel like we have to treat them with kid gloves. Its just not a good situation for morale or for getting work done.

Well thats my two cents.

Company boardrooms will universally freeze operations the day that men will be entitled to claim sexual harassment on a homo basis just because they lost power or self esteem when another male (or female for that matter) made them lose face over a negotiation. This is seriously redonkulous. Get it into perspective people!

Workplace bullying is another matter altogether... and the dealing with it should have nothing to do with gender or gender preference. But a company boardroom is fair game - how are we going to regulate that? Shareholders exercising moral ideals?... lol hahahaha

To answer your question: I think that it is good that society is more conscientious about bullying - especially if it is of something so personal as a sexual nature.

However, there's a bad flip side of that coin. What if I had been sexually harassed in school or in my labor-type jobs before I started my career? Instead of relying on school administrators, lawyers, or an HR department to handle the issue - it would've been more cost effective and timely for me to just deliver what the perpetrators had coming to them myself at the time of offense. I wouldn't have gotten in any trouble for it, because we're part of a southern God fearin' Judeo-Christian society and we grew up knowing the difference between good guys and bad guys; even playing cops and robbers.

However, with a less tolerant society, along with not tolerating the harasser includes less tolerance for the defendee. It's almost like some folks want to hide the delineation between good guys and bad guys. If I had a son who dealt with harassers with a response that would've been appropriate in my day and then some ACLU weirdo tried make money off of it, I'd be angry. There'd be hell to pay.

Without your inclusion of the link, I would wonder who "she said" was!

Jessica DuLong wrote an informative piece. I think personally, since I have taken a lot of flack from my own members in Green Party of the United States for advising our political organization to be more respectful in our advocacy for same-sex sexual orientation rights, that there is a huge back-lash building.

First, it has been scientifically estimated that 10% of human population is same-sex sexually oriented, but no more than 15% in higher-demographic areas.

Second, most heterosexual persons (which includes me in the category but not in the attitude) feel that same-sex sexuality is a threat to their family honor and heredity. They do not want their sons and daughters stepping out of the "honorable" realm of heterosexual reproduction in the family tree.

Nobody really knows what "homosexuality" is derived from. There are many theories and assertions. But the overall trend is that in the work place especially, there is a huge theistically-based (that means god-believing) prejudice growing within society, especially by heterosexual males, against same-sex sexual orientation.

The sad thing is that this prejudice is as bad sexual-wise as has been our inhuman attitude toward the people in foreign countries that our nation has killed and maimed in our commercial-military exploits to protect our corporations in empire-building since the 1840s. It seems to be related that mainstream society has those advocates who want everyone else to be the same as us or to serve us if they are not, including sexually.

The problem with the quote is that it overlooks retaliation, and this is what I tried to bring out in our discussion in Green Party US! Look what has happened with "whistle-blowers" since the Republican mafia cult has taken over our government! Thousands of "whistle-blowing" filings have been routinely dismissed without any hearing or investigation whatsoever since year 2000. Then the retaliation of career destroying and black-listing follows the "whistle-blowing".

The same applies to protections to people claiming sexual discrimination by same-sex aggressors. We can make all sorts of "protections" and "provisions", but what happens in the aftermath? Our society needs to become truly humane and to regard all persons in our country legally as being natizens of our nation and states and citizens of our cities! It gets down to respecting basic human rights for EVERYONE!

In some ways, the quote you refer to is partially correct, however, there are ramaficatons that are not being addressed in the quote. It is the repurcussions that are the element of concern! That has not yet reared its ugly head to reveal itself!

As I wrote in 1996, "Humans are really sub-human, with the capability of being human if only they woud try. Ronald Kinum 1996".

EDIT: Oh, I see the 'silencing attempt' has already begun, plus the free bonus gratuitous woman blaming. Neat package ~ talk about 'victim speak', lolol.

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It will be interesting to see if traditional 'victim blaming' tactics will be used in an attempt to silence men who voice opposition to these behaviours.

The statistics do suggest that some men at least won't tolerate violence directed towards themselves. I wonder if they will be able to extrapolate from that to the greater violence perpetrated societally.

Hopefully men will find their voices and continue to speak out.

Cheers :-)

What an bunch of ineffable nonsense! Typical misunderstanding if the male coalition and its dynamic.

Now, put me back on block. Then I will not have to witness your facile attempts at scholarship.

It simply means that men are gradually losing their sense of masculinity and, consequently, are becoming more feminine. It shows that feminism is having a profound impact on men in America.

Before you know it, feminists will have found a way for men to breast feed the children while women go shopping.

"Feminism is teaching boys that masculine qualities are bad and feminine qualities are the golden standard. These males are mostly result of feminist environment." Absolutely, "dsds."