In Proverbs 13:24 it tells us we hate our children if we spare the rod?

The Bible says it, that settles it!

What parents need to ensure tho that the discipline is corrective.

When a child is smacked out of the wrong motives, such as anger, then the child becomes exasperated, which leads to rebellion.

If this kind of discipline is handled correctly, then it produces a harvest of righteousness.

We have, unfortunately, interpreted this with today's mindset, rather than with the writer's original intent. Granted, it is difficult sometimes to get at the original intent. In the day and context during which this was written it was common for leader's to carry a rod (or staff). This signified some authority. Note that Moses held the rod over the waters to part them. So discipline by use of the rod means using one's authority to carefully discipline and point the way for our children. It does not mean to hit them with it. Although, on occasion a shepherd would use a rod to touch or nudge or tap sheep or goats back onto the right path (or direction). Beating or inflicting pain is certainly not the message.

Remember, don't take the word into the fullest sense. If we spoil our children we don't hate them, even though we let them get whatever they want, it would actually mean, if you spare the rod, you are being careless, but if you discipline you are being wise. Don't forget, men of God wrote inspiration given them based on their own understanding. They didn't have all the light. Light shines brighter as we near Christ's coming. Prov.4:16. And remember Proverbs 19:18:

"Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not they soul spare his crying." Also remember that the original KJV Bible was translated from Hebrew and Greek, it may say "hate" in our Bible because translation makes it seem a little different. Hope this helps. *Peace.*

Parents who do not teach (discipline) their children from a hot stove will die. If we put our children in harms way then we are not loving them. What is the opposite of Love....Hate. right?

That's whats really wrong with "some" of the kids in this world. They are not taught the consequences of their behavior or actions or some responsibility to the laws of the Land. All I hear from "some" of them is complaints and denial and blame.

Parents can't raise their children to be friends. We are not their friends during the short season that we have them in our care. They are not our possession. They are not us. They only come from us. When we have children then we as parents must take a stand to teach them while loving them.

I'm a parent and have made many mistakes with my children. I think I did spare the rod allot. I came from an abusive family and I took to the extreme for not teaching them. I wanted them to be my friend. I only say this because I have had heartache of my actions.

My mother told me once;" Your kids will step on your toes when they are little and when they become adults they will step on your heart." So true. Sorry for rambling on. I guess you hit a nerve. lol.

Yes and those that are using the rod of correction, loves the child. Those that don't use the rod of correction, hate their children! or they are sparingly using the rod of correction on the child, can ultimately confuse the child. Can I do it this time or Not , and if I get corrected will it be because my parent is in a bad mood or has a head ache, cause sometimes this or that, How can a Child know what is the line of correction, if it changes on a mood to mood or bad day to bad day situation.

I agree with everything in the Bible. Not only that but to put it in terms for people to understand. How many times have you seen a child that needed their butts beaten. It's because their bad and allowed to do their will instead of behaving good. When you spank/discipline your child you show them that what they are doing is wrong and that there is a consequence to wrong doing. Just like if their good then you reward them. But if you allow them to run free and have no discipline this word will be in shambles.

Today is a blessed day,so make it a good one!

Absolutely

I used to be a "Let the child find his own person" parent, and I'm here to tell you- it's crap. My mother in law spoils the heck out of our kids and they turn into little holy terrors around her.

You see, all children will be disciplined. It can be by someone who loves them and is doing it out of concern for their well being or after they move out. Then they will be disciplined by their wife, their boss, a bigger tougher guy in a bar, the police....

discipline is all about teaching a child how to behave acceptably in the world and how to get along with other people and succeed. If they aren't taught by the parent, that parent is dooming them to a life of misery.

A rod was a unit of measure, a standard if you will; not a stick with which to beat your child. If you "spare the rod" it means you are not holding your child to standards of behavior or allowing him or her to reap the consequences of bad or unwanted behavior. Sparing the rod does not have anything to do with corporal punishment. The term "careful to discipline" therefore means the same thing. A loving parent takes care to see that his or her child is taught (meaning of discipline) to behave to certain standards.

Yes, I agree with this. The word "hate" in this sense is used in regard to not caring how a child turns out in life with no standards of discipline, not an unadulterated hatred as we know the use of the word.

No. Sparing the rod has taught our babies that violence isn't a thank you to return to a determination our problems. Violence is truthfully a CONFESSION OF lack of awareness. So why have they have been given spoiled babies? because of the fact they in no way discovered that NO potential NO, so they are adverse as parental gadgets. mothers and fathers sense accountable for no longer spending time with their young ones, so they purchase them overpriced presents in an attempt to make up for it. that doesn't artwork, human beings!