Did we find peer reviewed scientific evidence that the Sun warms us?

Does this blogger fool explain just what he thinks does warm us?

I would appreciate a link to this blog to add to my collection of other insane comments that I have found.

I can not understand why he would wish to have any peer reviewed scientific proof of something so obviously basic, that even my dogs and cat understand.

Yesterday I saw some kid's comment about how the earth goes through climate changes because every 100,000 years or so the earth stops spinning and changes it's rotation!

Now if that isn't crazy, I would like to know what is!!

The really sad part is that he is probably not the only one to believe this.

You know, it's kind of funny. There's a debate going on in the scientific community about global warming. But there's certain things you simply have to understand before you can participate in the debate. These are things that all people on all sides of the debate agree on.

One of them is that the Sun warms the Earth. That's simply the price of admission.

It is frustrating though because sometimes you really do encounter people who genuinely don't know something that everyone in a particular field knows. Sometimes this knowledge is so common and obvious that it's very hard to find it stated by an authoritative source.

For example, the link below goes to an article discussing articles in 'Science' that contribute to the debate over what effect warming due to the Sun plays compared to the role that greenhouse effects play. You'll notice that nobody disputes that the Sun warms the Earth.

I may not always provide links to my answers, since I'm at work and short on time, but if I find interesting things that counter what the believers are saying I share them and provide the link. I also gravitate to scientific papers and websites and stay away from news articles and blogs, since I don't trust those sources whether there touting skeptical evidence or pro-evidence. I haven't looked outside the Internet yet, but I do intend to look for both pro and con research about this as well as research on sun spots and ocean cooling and warming trends. Those are just a few of the things I'd like to read more about. I'm also plan on following the cloud information NASA from the satellite they launched a few months ago to study clouds and their effects on our climate. But to answer your question: I feel that neither side on YA does a great job presenting their arguments. I guess that's why I'm trying to do more research on my own, so I can hold my own with the most knowledgeable answerer's on both sides of this issue.

I think people are misunderstanding the question. By "warming us," I believe you mean being responsible for the current warming trend. I know it's silly, but people seem to think there is a suggestion that the sun is not the source of warmth.

Here are a couple that acknowledge the correlation between solar variations and temperatures on Earth. But they both point out that recent warming is less closely tied to solar irradiance and is instead becoming more anthropogenic.

http://www.fel.duke.edu/~scafetta/pdf/2005GL025539...

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun-on-earth/GL26...

There is also this one, which has not been submitted for peer-review, only published online. http://www.spaceandscience.net/sitebuildercontent/...

Of course, it's difficult to find peer-reviewed papers without subscribing to at least one journal.

The sun isn't just some happy colorful yellow ball in the sky. No its a raging ball of inferno fire with electromagnetic waves ever passing through earth. How can people say that the sun can't drive our climate? It is our climate, its our only source of heat(lava and stuff will cool off then well be like pluto). The sun can fluctuate! Look we dont know enough about or own wheather systems to make such a far fetched apocalypse prediction right now!

You wouldn't happen to have a link to support your assertion about this blogger would you?

I think what you meant to say is that the blogger is adamant that "changes in the Sun" have not produced the "increased warming" we've had over the past century. Details are important. No one claims the Sun is not the source of the energy that maintains our planets stable temperature.

Earth receives about 340 W/m² of energy from the Sun. As long as the same amount is emitted back into space our planet will remain at a fixed temperature. If there's a decrease in the amount emitted (e.g. due to greenhouse gases) or the amount received (e.g. increased solar output) the planet will warm. This is known as the radiation budget. It's a balancing act and anything that puts it out of balance (natural or anthropogenic) will have a climate effect.

I don't think anyones produced any peer reviewed articles on whether gravity holds us down lately either.

Believers seem to claim that the sheer volume of peer reviewed articles is compelling evidence of AGW. Virtually every one of these peer reviewed articles are highly speculative and say humans might, may could cause catastrophic climate change. Maybe if enough people say 'might may could' then that constitutes compelling proof.

I always thought the sun warmed me. It seems to when I go outside. If the sun doesn't warm us what does the blogger say does warm us?

I would think that a few hours out by the pool with some sunscreen would make intense scientific research unnecessary.

There have been many studies that have linked the 1500 year climate cycle.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/294/...

http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abs...

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7065/ab...

Here is a paper by Jan veizer:

http://www.sciencebits.com/files/articles/GACV32No...