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How to advocate in favour of God's perfection if humans using their free will may commit sin?

There isn't a choice to do bad and live in God's universe so we may assume God spoke up front to his angels about it as He warned Adam and Even on this in Eden. The possibility for either angel and man fall and die was known by God before He created such creatures. Now why then knowing it would happen did He creat them? To make those who wouldn't fall and die having learned either the 'hard way' ( redeemed humans) or by witnessing (no condemned angels) what had happened to the banned creatures that it's better to do good? So the perfection of creation is only attained after an episode of imperfection is mended?

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  • Matrix
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago
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    God created intelligent beings, not stupid ones. Ultimately, no matter how long the wait, this question would arise. "Do I have free will if God knows my destiny?" and "Why would He choose to create one that would eventually sin?"

    Regardless of anything else that occurs in the universe, or how God answers the question, there could still be doubt. Why? Because there was simply NO PROOF. No proof that sin = death. No proof that a mind that is turned away from God will naturally turn to consistent wickedness. No proof that we all have free will. Not even proof, really, that God truly loves them and would do anything to keep them in His care. Now some would wonder and do nothing. Perhaps some, on planets full of life, would have sinned and died for the sake of it, because they didn't understand the nature of sin. Then everyone around would wonder why.

    Now for other creatures there most certainly was a choice to do what God had warned them not to do. But your definition of perfect is flawed, unless by using this specific term you are saying there is no more sin, no more possibility of sin. But had He created a universe in which sin was impossible in the first place, He would have made robots. Those who love because they are forced to love are not truly loving. Those who love because they WISH to love is a different story. By showing such love for us, ALL creation will see that this love extends not only to us, but to every one of them that did not sin. For any one of them he would have done the same. Consider the parable of the lost sheep. When the shephard had 100 sheep, and 1 left the flock. The shephard left the 99 in search of the one. Having found that lost sheep, He rejoiced in that he had found this sheep.

    The fact of the matter is that ultimately the question had come up enough times to warrant a universal demonstration. Whether the beings God had created had voiced the question is up for debate - but God knows the heart. It is one thing to SAY you love someone. I could tell you I love you till I'm blue in the face. If I do nothing to show it, I'm simply converting oxygen into carbon dioxide. How long had the question been raised? Were there entire planets on the verge of deciding? Had it been thousands upon thousands of years? God knew that these ones would fall. Do any of us know how long Adam and Eve lived without sin? No. Perhaps they too, had these questions to put to God. Was God hiding something better from them? It was just a piece of fruit. Was the secret in the fruit? Was God lying to them? How many questions could possibly be posed around this? How long did she debate the issue before reaching for the fruit? How long did she stare at it in her hand before eating it? Was death truly a bad thing? Why does God give us a choice if we aren't supposed to use it?

    Too many questions were raised for God to do nothing any longer. He had to prove it. His creations were demanding it. God Himself was put to the test: could the law be kept AND bring the fallen world back to Himself? Could true justice be found for EVERY situation that arises in a fallen world? Could creation do well without the laws God created? Did He love these fallen beings who CHOSE FREELY to disobey Him enough to do something about it? Would any choose freely to love Him? Did He truly know the choices that one would make under free will? Could God's foreknowledge of the fact, and even telling a person what they would do, stop them from doing it? For example, Peter, only hours before He denied Christ, was told that he would do so. And Peter denied it vehemently - yet he still denied Jesus 3 times. So many questions, so little proof. This planet will give enough evidence for every other world God ever created or will create to answer every question that could possibly arise. History is recorded perfectly in Heaven.

    God could not be held in the highest reputation if He did not subject Himself to these tests. "You would make us robots, when we don't have a choice not to do as You have commanded." He needed proof. We testify to the fact that He loves us, that He has given us free will, that it is better to love God and that His commands are just. We show that God would condescend to the depths - that His love for His creations, even fallen ones, is beyond understanding.

    He compliments the creations that He made by answering their questions, and by giving hard proof that could not be debated any more. It's unfortunate that people have to die for this: God never wanted any of His creations to die. But ultimately, there had to be a full demonstration of free will in order to prove its existance in any race. It's a complicated thing, free will, and certainly this is NOT the entire answer. You could ask God for a better one when we get to Heaven. He's got them all.

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    Do you mean you did this online, or want to be forgiven online, because a lot of churches are forgiving online have websites you type in sin and they forgive, it's God that forgives tech. not the church, God should be able to forgive anything, just ask, the person next to Jesus on the cross asked for forgiveness, are you sure you never lied??? I think everyone has done it maybe as a child? I've done I few more sins than you but also like you I've not raped or murdered, I've stolen pens accident. or on purpose from businesses.... But yes God can forgive anywhere, he's God

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    God gives us free will for a reason.

    Christians are suppose to hate sin even though

    it looks pleasurable.

    it's like sacrifice.

    i'm willing to give up having sex, doing drugs, cussing, watching ugly movies, or having pride for the fact that Jesus sees this as sin.

    Since God is perfect, why would he want someone who isn't willing to try or sacrifice something for him.

    it's like worship, if we don't sin he is pleased.

    he could eliminate free will, however he wants us to choose

    for the purpose.

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