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With 4 laws against Same sex marriage in FL- will Amdnt 2 help or hurt???

I have reviewed other states who passed similar laws and this bill seems redundant and worse than the 4 prior laws. The ammendment has potential to be used as a defense against domestic violence, the potential to remove partnership rights to unmarried couples (inclusive of all couples) and to me seems to be another source to spread hate- the ramifications seem almost as bad as Amendment 1 which raised college tuitions, lessened law enforcement and fire protection and halted improvements in the state.

So why present another damaging bill. My understanding is that there are a number of organizations like law enforcement, teachers unions, fire fighters and other public servants against this bill...

With the amount of signatures required to get this on the ballot for November and 4 existing laws in place already... would you support a bill that may remove a Fiancee's right to see her husband in the hospital or to face the same inequality as same sex couples?

Update:

IS the general hate and misunderstanding for the LGBTQ community so severe that stripping rights from "common law" or "domestic partners" is also worth it. I realize Common Law marriage is not observed in Florida but Domestic Unions are and they could be adversly affected.

So is your unmarried daughter and her boyfriend, etc... and or/your grandchildren going to benefit from this law- it would appear that this will adversly affect them to and make them face the same discrimination that the bill proposes on the LGBTQ community...

maybe all unwed couples should face equal treatment and removal of public assistance and benefits... the thought is now becoming more of a consideration- why should an unmarried fiancee of a college professor receive benefits- or two unmarried teachers living together, or anyone...

Update 2:

perhaps I missed the point- inequality for all is at least equal to banning gay marriage a 5th time in Florida. No more DV laws or rights for unmarried partners would reduce the influx on the justice system and since they could not use state or federal funds if unmarried to qualify for foreclosure assistance if both are not on title then married couples would be afforded more support...

Update 3:

Fact of the matter Florida is a Conservative state. In my opinion and this may be wrong the other 49 and all territories would have to permit same sex marriage before Florida would ever consider it. Children can sleep on kindermats in group homes before the state would allow a same sex couple to foster a child- so this law seems redundant and counter-productive. In its format it is extremely vague and I think this will be as counter productive if not more counter productive than AMDT 1 was.

Update 4:

http://www.sayno2.com/

Florida Fire Fighters are against it- No one listened to them on Amendment 1...

Update 5:

http://samesexmarriage.typepad.com/weblog/2008/06/...

Same-sex couples are a small minority of those who will be affected if this proposed Florida constitutional amendment passes this November. The sponsors of Amendment 2 are misleading people (very effectively it seems) into believing this amendment is about gay marriage. That's just not true.

In fact, since same-sex marriage is already against the law in Florida, this amendment is not about "gay marriage" at all. The language of this proposed amendment has the illusion of being straightforward. It is not.

This Florida constitutional amendment, if passed, threatens basic fundamental rights of unmarried heterosexual domestic partner couples. Basic rights that will be taken away include shared healthcare plans offered by government agencies, universities and private businesses, and the right to visit a partner who may be hospitalized for any reason.

Update 6:

The amendment takes away current legal rights of people in relationships which are the "substantial equivalent" of marriage.

Update 8:

sorry Fiancee's right to see her husband- to -be...

too many words and thoughts going to fast

Update 9:

Bill H provided a link - see the part "that NO OTHER..." outside of being legally married- No other union is considered. These laws have had damaging affects throughout the nation thus far...

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  • 1 decade ago
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    They are trying to comply with the wishes of the majority of the people of Florida, which is what is supposed to happen in a democracy.

    Meanwhile, it shows how decadent we are becoming in the West, when we waste our time on this sort of thing while people are starving to death all over the place.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    This is an amendment to the state constitution, and therefore carries much more weight than the four laws already on the books, which could be ruled unconstitutional upon review by state supreme court.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I believe you should be able to have a gay spouse in any state, just not necessarily have a gay marriage in any state.

    Source(s): Personal opinion.
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I have no intention of voting for it. I have no problem with gay marriage. It has no affect on nor does it devalue my own marriage.

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    4 years ago

    hi, >> the terrific option me if i'm incorrect, yet isn't divorce ruining the sanctity of marriage? And the element is??? we are additionally against divorces, or sexual relationship outdoors marriage. what's the problem??? >> because of the fact that whilst did God no longer condone of gay marriage? i do no longer bear in suggestions it ever saying interior the >> bible that 2 adult adult males won't be able to get married. I bear in suggestions it saying that 2 adult adult males won't be able to lay together, yet >> that's been a longtime certainty that any homophobic comments interior the bible have been extra by applying the >> ruler of Rome, Constantine, for specific reason This one is humorous. ought to substantiate the certainty? How did Constantine did to alter the text cloth of manuscripts who have been dated centuries earlier he grow to be born??? Did he have a time gadget??? with regard to the marriage, there's a typical definition of it: a guy and a woman in Genesis 2. because of the fact that sexual relationship are to be completed in a marriage relationship and that's forbidden to 2 adult adult males. It made the marriage forbidden for 2 adult adult males. >> On a appropriate subject count, you all know how homosexuality isn't a call, genuine? you recognize that it is an analogous equivocation that we consistently factors to ant you frequently bypass on with, genuine??? The gay desire isn't a call, however the gay act is one. all of us have sinful desire and are asked to conflict with them. Our desire are actually not organic and are not a evidence of slightly being stable. we don't say that the gay desire is a call, we stated that the gay act is one. So, do you suggestions combating this strawman? >> you're attentive to our first modification, genuine? [...] do no longer you notice how stupid it somewhat is? if your rules are stupid, it has no longer something to do with the christian faith. >> final question, then we are completed. who're you to deny all of us happiness? once you're happy with >> your important different, then why won't be able to 2 adult adult males be happy with one yet another? [...] Is it somewhat genuine to deny >> all of us happiness? i do no longer think of so. ought to you first tutor to us that what you think of is often certainty and strong? in case you won't be able to why do you convey this element? 2d, that's no longer happiness it somewhat is at stake, yet what's evil or stable. If our God exists, homosexuality is evil. And if God would not exists, morality is subjective, so which you won't be able to impose yours on us. Regards, Emmanuel

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