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If God is everywhere and in all things, how is God not in the devil?
If God is not in the devil, then God is not omnipotent or omnipresent as I have been told for many years.
Anna if God is everywhere, he must be in everything. If he is not in everything, he is not everywhere.
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In one line you say God creates evil and in the next you say the evil is not God. That makes no sense at all.
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I see where you are going now.
Renee
The church tried that one on me too when I was little. But to be honest, that sort of logic just isn't good enough for me.
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
And if God is a hard-hitting warrior of love and righteousness, why can't he just kick the devil's *** once and for all?
Maybe because neither of them exist? Wow. WOW.
Source(s): Vernon Dozier just blew your mind. - kickthecan61Lv 51 decade ago
An argument similar to this was handled centuries ago by Christians. The concern was, "Could God be also in the foul and putrid places, places where people would think God would be too noble to be?" The answer is yes he does fill the whole universe (and even "beyond" this creation) YET He is not contained by it. God/Jesus promised His disciples that He would be with them always. During the persecuting of the Christians in Rome, when Christians escaped through the sewers, God was indeed with them. God is merciful and has not abandoned His creation.
As far as the devil as a created being... while God is omnipresent, it does the devil no good. [BTW: part of your problem is with the imprecision of the word "in" in the English language. Here if in and omnipresent are talking about the same thing, then "in" does NOT mean "contain by". i.e. The devil does not "contain" God.] In fact, the devil, is unaware of God's presence UNLESS God CHOOSES to reveal Himself to the devil. That God's spanning all things (and beyond) includes the devil in the all things is really not very profound and it doesn't mean that the devil or people naturally have a relationship with God or that they still don't hate. (Yes, God is in charge and does allow the devil some room to act. Since the devil only hates, what we get is a heads-up about what would happen if God stopped keeping a lid on things and completely allowed the world to run its natural course.) That there is any good or beauty in the world is because God is still merciful to us. WWI, following a period of human bragging about how advanced and clever and independent people are in this wonderful new century, is a good look at what MANKIND would do left in his own. And then people had the chutzpa to call it the war to end all wars!
God's omnipresence is the same for us. While God is present everywhere, He has chosen to reveal Himself in ways that HE chooses -- namely through Jesus and His word and sacraments, otherwise He cannot be known.
EDIT>> giggles: I imagine the reason you're not get much of a response to your quotes is that your point is really not saying much of anything controversial or profound [one would hope -- unless you are an anarchist]. The passages (in context) are talking about God's judgment of the people who have been doing wrong. (People had been complaining to God to DO SOMETHING about the hardship being caused by those in power. God did not act immediately in order to give people a chance to repent -- sending prophets, famine, hardships, etc. Finally, God acted. One expects calamity and difficulty when one is judged for wrongdoing. God is giving them a "head's up" -- when you see these calamities happening don't blame them on happenstance -- they are justice coming to you. When the Russians entered Berlin at the end of WWII, they caused great destruction and death. Did they do wrong? OR do we wish that they (or the other allies) had gotten their SOONER and removed Hitler from power??
- 1 decade ago
God is everywhere no matter what. God was in the devil once, but since the devil disobeyed God, His friendship with the devil was broken. Just like if you commit mortal sin and don't go to confession or take Communion. You are completely cut off from God. He doesn't even hear your prayers until you confess your sins. Plus, the devil is in an entirely different world. God tried to convince the devil to confess, and he didn't, so then the devil died and went to hell. If you committed mortal sin, confess if you don't want to be like the devil.
Source(s): I asked my priest the same question in Sunday School when I was little. - 1 decade ago
Sounds like a variation of the problem of evil to me.
If evil has God in it, it doesn't necessarily corrupt God directly.
Evil exists on a different plane of existence from God since God is the only truly existing existence aka ultimate reality.
Just like you can kill villains in a video game without becoming a murderer,
God can do the same to us without altering Himself and He can make this world as evil as He wants since the reality of our existence is no different than video game villains in comparison to God.
At the very least, God can adjust Himself by pointing at Adam's sin and showing us before and after. He does us a favor by not decreeing sudden death upon all of humanity and giving us the opportunity to fix the sin by letting us live. The difference is as dramatic as Adam before the sin and after the sin.
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- HatikvahLv 71 decade ago
You are absolutely correct. God created both good AND evil. There is no creature with powers equal to God's in Judaism. HaSatan is nothing more than the accuser -- he serves as God's prosecuting attorney.
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- 1 decade ago
In Christianity, God created all things, including the Angels. He also gave the Angels free will - Lucifer decided it was better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven.
Thus, God enabled the Devil to be created - but is not the Devil.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
The Devil and god are the same person. That is why they are always considered christian gods, because they are one and the same
- 1 decade ago
(Isaiah 45:7, KJV) - "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
(Amos 3:6) - "Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?"
Source(s): Christians HATE me quoting these verses and the best they have done to refute that god ( who they say created EVERYTHING) didn't create "evil" is that it translates to "calamity" - so, at the least, god created calamity! Great! - Anonymous1 decade ago
God created everything, but He will only live in those who accept Him as their Lord and Savior......Satan knows who God is like, but because he loves himself more he refuses to let God his Savior and Lord.
- Josh6Lv 61 decade ago
God only lives in the heart of His people. "They that are of have the Spirit of God, they are the children of God." Romans 8:14
Source(s): The Unveiling of the Trinity (The End of the Mystery)