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Can you name one stable vegan culture or civilization?
I have doubts about the sustainability of the vegan life - it's one thing to become a vegan after a childhood of being an omnivore, but another for a vegan to produce children, raise them on a vegan diet, and have them healthy enough to reproduce.
Can anyone name a long-lasting vegan civilization or group?
By long-lasting, I mean at least 5 generations of nothing but vegans. Groups that accept members from the non-vegan population don't count ... they are importing omnivores to maintain reproductive health.
India doesn't count - they use milk and eggs.
* Buddhist monks are celibate. Buddhists are not required to be vegan, nor are the monks.
* Hindus ... all the ones I know eat dairy.
* Jains ... monks and nuns may be strict vegan, but the laity are the same as most Hindus, and do eat dairy. They don't eat dairy with certain other foods, but they do eat it.
21 Answers
- Soda PopinskiLv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
There is no civilization in the history of the Earth that has thrived eating as vegan. Veganism is only possible in today's world of "special" ingredients and things made with all sorts of unusual substitutions.
Civilizations throughout history eat what they can get, and they certainly don't complain if they eat honey, or an egg (for heaven's sake).
Look, you can be a vegan now... it works. But if the supermarkets closed and all the vegans went hungry, you can guarantee they'd be eating some animal products.
- 5 years ago
As it was said before I think you will not find a culture of people that were truly vegan do to how much food and energy it would be to find the food and put it together unlike today. Though I believe a lot of cultures incorporated a lot of vegetables and fruits to mix with the animal products. Probably some cultures didn't eat meat regularly. The only group of people i know of that might be truly vegan are shoalin monks.
- 5 years ago
There are some vegan sub cultures but no cultures that are pure vegan. Jainism is not vegan as they eat yogurt. In Jainism they also do not eat any seed foods. Veganism is relatively new as a concept. Vegans make up about 2% at most in the US. That being said just because there are no vegan cultures, that does not mean being vegan is a bad thing. It just means more bacon for me.
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- 5 years ago
Veganism is SO healthy, but I think it's good also to supplement your diet with meat at a like 90:10 plants:animals. I mean I try to guess how our ancestors caught meat was by using plant energy to run and catch it. I try not to kill, but everything dies to something. If all the deer died, a lot of wolves would die, if all the wolves died, then the deer may just eat up all the plants since they have no predators. Or they might get fat an weak like a lot of us, me included, cause I don't HAVE to worry about any predators except human ones. the universe is just a big stomach
- 7 years ago
Soda Popinski said, "Veganism is only possible in today's world of "special" ingredients and things made with all sorts of unusual substitutions. " This is a very bold statement that is neither true nor intelligible. Don't listen to a person who obviously has no idea about veganism.
- MeeLv 51 decade ago
My fiance was an Anthropology major, and he said there was a civilization that was completely vegan, except for once a year, they have a celebration where they slaughter pigs.
Here's my theory of why there are practically no civilizations that are completely vegan, especially in societies where there are comforts. When people are looking for convenient ways to get their calories, they go towards meat since it is rich in them and fat. People are drawn to fat because of our drive to keep warm and have energy that has passed down from our ancestors. So we're driven towards instant satisfaction. Also, eating vegan foods requires a lot of eating to get enough calories and fat, and people don't like that extra time wasted in things like that. Our ancestors main purpose in existence was to survive, while nowadays, it's all about comfort and ease. A vegan diet would make much more sense. And yes, our earliest ancestors were primarily vegan. Hunting came after gathering, especially with shortages of food with less nomadic expenditures and changing climates.
Hope that makes some sense. It's only my theory, but I think it's pretty valid.
- 1 decade ago
That's a good question. The term "vegan" wasn't even coined until 1944, so I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a long-lasting vegan civilization! Although I understand that many Jains follow a vegan diet (no eggs or dairy).
I also know kids who are being raised on vegan diets and are perfectly healthy. (Their mothers were vegan during pregnancy, too.) You can see some photos and stories of vegan kids here: http://veganhealth.org/articles/realveganchildren
Also, the American Dietetic Association is one of the nation's leading nutrition experts and it states that balanced vegan diets are fine for all ages: "Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence."
http://eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada/hs.xsl/advoca...
I hope this helps.
- 1 decade ago
"...vegan to produce children, raise them on a vegan diet, and have them healthy enough to reproduce." Excuse me?
"healthy enough to reproduce", what are we, livestock (I'm not gonna go into the resulting puns of that one)?!?!
As for sustainability, can you name a civilization that is ABSOLUTELY omni without "importing" some vegans and vegetarians to "maintain reproductive health"? For goodness sake!
On a serious note, veganism (when done properly - just like with being omni) IS a perfectly healthy way to live.
I really think you'd get a lot out of "www.veganbodybuilding.com". Check out some of those guys (they are VEGAN by the way) and then tell me we'd have to "import" omnis. Also, "veganhealth.org/articles/realveganchildren" has quite a few healthy and active vegan since conception kids.
You can contact me for more info if you wish.
Source(s): Vegetarian - 4 years Vegan - 1 month http://veganhealth.org/articles/realveganchildren http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/ - Anonymous1 decade ago
The Hindu's?
- 1 decade ago
Why do you have doubts about the sustainability of the vegan life?
And just because there may not be a "civilization" of vegans (wouldn't that be great?) dosen't mean that the health benefits of being vegan are invalid.
Tons of people of people raise healthy vegan children. I don't see why you need a "civilization" to proove that.