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Does Obama's inability to back a law that prohibits infanticide change anybodies opinion of the messiah?
He (and his campaign admits this) shot down an Illinois law that would have prohibited an abortion doctor from killing a born infant if that infant showed signs of life after an abortion attempt. His reasoning at the time was that the addition of a doctor with the ability to help an infant would have put undo pressure on the mother. He, therefore, believes that if a child is born alive, a mother should still be able to kill it.
Does this change the views or voting stance of any Obamaphiles?
This combined with his inability to confirm to Rev. Warren when life begins raises questions as to whether he still does believe in infanticide.
KIZIAH-
That is a joke and proves nothing. It says that WOULD have supported the federal legislation, but he never had a chance to. Of course he says that now.
The truth is that IL. did adjust to include that language and he still rejected it.
Tickled Blue -
I accepted that premis, however; that was not what he stated when he addressed the Legslature of IL. He stated that it would burden the mother if she knew the child was alive. He made no mention of it being in contradiction of Roe v. Wade.
Tunney -
Please read the question above. Obama has stated that he would oppose legislation that would prohibt the the doctor from killing a child after it was born. These are breathing are children we are talking about, not an in utero fetus.
Itsyourworld-
You have posted the most mornic answer so far. It has been accepted legally and societally that if a child is born, it is alive. If you use that standard, then Obama is OK with infanticide. Using your logic, science is still trying to determine if a child that is outside of the uterus, moving and has pulse is a living child. If that is truly your stance, then you are in a worse place then Obama.
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- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Do you KNOW when life begins? Or is it just your opinion. Because I'm sure MILLIONS of scientists would love to know. Abortions should be kept legal, safe, and as few as possible per year. That decision is between the woman and her doctor and if she's religious, between her and God. Judge not lest ye be judged.
VOTE OBAMA In '08!
Source(s): That should answer your question... - Charles DLv 41 decade ago
In reporting on abortion-rights opponents’ criticism of Sen. Barack Obama's opposition as an Illinois state senator to bills seeking to amend the Illinois Abortion Law of 1975, the media have promoted numerous myths and falsehoods about Obama and the legislation. In several instances, the media have simply repeated false accusations -- or made the accusations themselves -- that Obama's opposition amounted to support for infanticide. In fact, Obama and other opponents said the bill posed a threat to abortion rights and was unnecessary because, they said, Illinois law already prohibited the conduct supposedly addressed by the bill.
On the August 18 edition of his radio show, Rush Limbaugh claimed that Obama "believes it is proper to kill a baby that has survived an abortion," while right-wing pundit Ann Coulter said that Obama "wants the doctors ... chasing it through the delivery room to make sure it gets killed." Further, author Jerome Corsi claimed that "[e]ven if a child was born, he said the woman still had the right to kill the child in an abortion," and Oregonian associate editor David Reinhard wrote that Obama's opposition was "enabling infanticide." In fact, Obama and other opponents said the bill posed a threat to abortion rights and was unnecessary because, they said, Illinois law already prohibited the conduct supposedly addressed by the bill.
It's been said that, if it weren't for lack of context, there would be no news.
You have to consider the source.
One source of these claims is Jerome Corsi, who has also written that McCain made his wealth through the Mafia and that 9/11 was perpetrated by the Bush Administration.
Another source of these claims is Jill Stanek, who says domestic violence is acceptable against women who have abortions. She also supports billboards in Tanzania that say "Faithful Condom Users" in English and Swahili, written next to a large skeleton, to discourage condom use. She claims that "aborted fetuses are much sought after delicacies" in China to which she added, "I think this stuff is happening."
Nurse Jill Stanek claimed that fetuses that were born alive at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois, were abandoned without treatment, including in a soiled utility room. The Illinois Atty. General's office, then under abortion foe Jim Ryan, directed the Illinois Dept. of Public Health to conduct a thorough investigation of the claims, because what she was alleging were violations of existing law, supporting Obama's position that Illinois law already prohibited the conduct. The investigation concluded, "The allegation that infants were allowed to expire in a utility room could not be substantiated (and) all staff interviewed denied that any infant was ever left alone." Shafer was quick to add that neither he nor the IDPH report concluded that her testimony was untruthful or exaggerated to help advance her anti-abortion views -- simply that their investigation did not substantiate the allegations.
Don't extremist conservatives think it might hurt their cause to put out stuff that's so easily debunked? or do they not think their audience would feel its intelligence is being insulted?
Source(s): http://mediamatters.org/items/200808220022?f=h_top http://mediamatters.org/items/200808150013?f=s_sea... http://mediamatters.org/items/200808020004 - 1 decade ago
A woman's right to end an unwanted pregnancy is not infanticide. I think you are creating a new definition of infant. If a pregnancy is aborted the fetus is not an infant yet. It's only an infant after it's birth. Let's call a spade a spade okay?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Lie.
The bill would have overturned roe v wade measures, making women and doctors criminals. There was NO language in the bill that protected a woman if the abortion were needed for the medical health of the mother.
- 1 decade ago
Alas... many are so in love with the prospect of having him in office, they will glaze right over it with statements like those above.
I think it is a valid point and it deserves some scrutiny.
I love the word 'obamaphiles' by the way... excellent play on words!
- KIZIAHLv 71 decade ago
Read this if you are really interested in knowing the whole truth about this. If you're just trying to stir things up, maybe others will read it.
- SailingLv 41 decade ago
Obama said it himself. It is above his pay grade. So who is going to make the big decisions in the White House if he gets in? That will definately be above his pay grade.
