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I have a friend who started a table tennis club in March/08, and is only now establishing a record of his expenses and credits. He wants to be conscientious about it but is also a chronic procrastinator. Once he gets this sorted out, he swears to stay on top of it. I know he is honest to a fault.
We need some help on where exactly he stands. We have calculated (as he has been religious about good attendance records that to date (Oct. 6/08) he has brought in a total of $3,270.00 in membership fees, etc. From this money, he deposited $1,075.00 into the club's bank account and the balance of $2,195.00 has gone towards items to start up the club.
With respect to his out-of-pocket expenses, they total at present $4,058.00 (although this will increase as there are still a number of receipts precluding June/08 that he has yet to lay his hands on). Currently the receipts in the book totalling $4,058.00 run from early June to the present.
Right now, on one hand, it looks fairly simple to figure out where he stands. Taking into account the $3,270.00 the club has brought in and the $4,058.00 in verified more current receipts (as well as the early receipts mentioned that are not yet calculated into the $4,058.00 figure) it appears the club owes him $788.00, out of the $1,075.00 sitting in the bank, at the least, depending on additional early receipts.
To me, this is what's confusing:
When I do it another way, and start with the $4,058.00 that he has to date put out.
His expenses total $4,058.00 but if I deduct from that the $2,195.00 that has already been applied towards his expenditure (the $3,270.00 originally collected less the $1,075.00 that went into the club's bank account), and is therefore a credit to what is owed to him, it seems like he is still owed: $1,863.00. ($2,195.00 + $1,863.00 totalling the $4,058.00 he's put out). Does this mean he is owed the $1,075.00 in the account plus an additional $788.00. I'm lost - I surrender.
So is it nice and simple and he's owed $788.00 or is he actually owed $1,863.00 (and is some of this figure coming from the receipts that we know verify some early expenditures but are not in fact in this calculations yet).
And (one last question): if he is owed the $788.00, is that taken from the $1,075.00 in the club's account, leaving a $287.00 balance to the good. Do we assume he is owed $788.00 now and as he finds the receipts he knows he has for earlier transactions adds them on to what he knows is owed to him. He is feeling that he is owed certainly more that $788.00 but is also aware that that may be how it shows on paper and he needs to propduce his other receipts to have a more accurate balance owing to him.
I hope some kind soul is patient enough to take on this question. As you can see, my forte is not math or bookkeeping (more "Words and Wordplay") My own guess tho is this:
He is, in fact, owed the $1,863.00. Right now, on paper in looks with what's come in and what's gone out that he's owed the $788.00. But, as I mentioned, there are still a number of outstanding receipts we need to locate from March through June (when he started filing invoices, etc.), and I'm guessing that as those receipts show up we will get nearer that higher figure that he may be owed.
To anyone who is PATIENT and KIND enough to try to sort this out for me, thank you, thank you, thank you...you are an Angel.
4 Answers
- CHARITY GLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
You are way over thinking this . . . I'm making an assumption that the 2195 taken of cash (dues) went entirely to his balance of 4058 in out of pocket expenses . . .
If this is a business and if he is indeed the "owner" of the club, your friend has 4058 in "Owner's Equity." OE is the amount an owner "invests" into a business and is booked as an asset. Your friend also has a dividend due from his investment for 4058 .. . this is a liability for the company. You will debit the OE account by 2195 (receipts verified) and will credit the investment yield account by 2195 . . . to leave both accounts in balance at 1863.00
If this business is not legally recognized . . . that is . . . it is not a legal entity (recognized by the state) but an informal business relationship amongst a group of people . . . then the "books" should look something like this (cash basis) . . . 3270 in the cash account . . . less expenses (which should be tracked by separate account to debit cash . . . which if done correctly should bring the current balance of cash to 1075.00. Their should be a general liability account . . . you can call it "money owed to my friend . .." just make sure it's a liability account for 1863.00.
So if your friend (and this is hypothetical) takes 1000.00 dollars out of cash leaving a balance of 75.00 . . .. you would make a notation in both cash and money owed to my friend . . .
I think the second of the scenarios is more in line with what you need . . . just make sure that your friend AND THIS IS IMPORTANT . . . keeps all receipts because the IRS will consider it income if he can not produce an original receipt should he ever be audited . . .
I do this for my own business . . . I buy ziplock bags and tape them so the mouth is hanging open and tape them everywhere I go . . . I have one on my car's dash board . . . my husband's dashboard . . . on the fridge . .. in my purse . .. and on the side of my center console table . . . so that way I just drop my receipts in and forget about it . . . about every three weeks I collect the bags and edit the books . . . once done . . . I throw all the receipts into one bag . . . write the month on the front, zip it shut and file it . . . It really works and will probably help your friend.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
You can actually outsource bookkeeping and accounting services so you can be sure that the answers/help you get are competent and well studied. If having a bookkeeper is not in the plan, your friend may just use a bookkeeper for now while still sorting things out. When everything seems better, your friend can probably just take it from there.
There are lots of online bookkeepers who can help you. I came across http://www.books2taxes.com/ before, and found that this site offers these services through phone, email, fax and even IM. I haven't personally tried their services, but I have never been into a situation such as your friend's. ;)
- Anonymous7 years ago
Good financial management which helps to improve your business profits.
- ang lLv 41 decade ago
there are many good accounting programs out there. try quicken it is a good one that i use. it will sort it all out for you. hope this helps good luck