ACC Coastal division tie-breaker scenario question?

ACC Football Tiebreaker Policy

The Atlantic Coast Conference Championship will be decided by a game between the Atlantic and Coastal Division Champions. The team in each division with the highest percentage of wins during all regular-season Conference competition shall be declared the division champion. If two or more teams are tied with the highest percentage of wins, they shall be declared division co-champions. Division standings will be calculated on a percentage basis, using only those Conference games which are a part of the regular rotating schedule. In the event of division co-champions, the following tie-breaker procedure will be used to determine that divisions’ representative to the championship game.

A. Two-Team Tie

Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.

Records of the tied teams within the division.

Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall record (divisional). Conference record and proceeding though the division. Multiple ties within the division broken from first to last.

Overall record versus all common non-divisional opponents.

Combined record versus all non-divisional teams.

Record versus common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.

The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the end of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game.

The representative shall be chosen by a draw.

B. Three (or More) Team Tie

(Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used)

Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams.

Records of the tied teams within the division.

Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last.

Overall record for non-divisional teams.

Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.

Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional and non-divisional record) and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.

The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.

The representative shall be chosen by a draw.

Hi! This is my first time on Yahoo! Answers so I hope I can be of some help. The previous post answers the question of how the winner will be decided technically, but there's a lot of brain learnin' and figurin' needed to predict a potential winner.

First, we're goint to assume that Miami will lose to Georgia Tech, and I think that's a BIG assumption (sorry Jacket's fans but I'm of a different Tech cloth and I think Miami is back in old form). Also, we have to take into account that this is Georgia Tech’s final conference game of the year. So, IF we’re going under the assumption that GT beats Miami. They will finish (temporarily) in the driver’s seat at 5-3.

On Saturday (remember Miami/GT is on Thursday night) North Carolina plays NC State, Virginia plays Clemson and Virginia Tech plays Duke. Since we're assuming things here I'm going to assume game outcomes. UNC wins (4-3), VT wins (4-3), UVA loses (3-4). Actually, I AM biased, so for the sake of argument let's assume UVA wins too (4-3).

Everyone that is still in play is at 4-3. The final week of the season brings resolution to everything. UNC beats down the lowly Blue Devils and finishes 5-3. I may be biased, but the Hokies have manhandled the Cavaliers in the new millenium, winning 7 of 8 by a combined 241-127. Virginia Tech goes to 5-3. However, IF I am wrong you would just swap UVA for VT from here on out since both Virginia universities defeated North Carolina.

Where does that leaves us? Well, it really does ALL come down to what Miami does on the field. If they beat Georgia Tech on Thursday, none of this will matter. However, if they DO lose to GT and then again on the final Saturday of the season to a dreadful NC State team that will be foaming at the mouth to ruin Miami's season, everything goes to the VT/UVA winner (at 5-3) by virtue of the fact that they both defeated the Tarheels and the Jackets.

Of course, if Miami beats GT to go to 5-2 and then LOSES to NC State, they finish 5-3. Head-to-head they would eliminate the VT/UVA winner and then LOSE the head-to-head with UNC. This scenario would make UNC the winners of the division, and is really their only hope of winning after the loss to Maryland.

Still confused? There’s really no way to know until the final whistle blows on Thanksgiving weekend who will be punching their tickets to Tampa as the winner of the ACC’s Coastal Division. If the smoking-hot Hurricanes continue their streak and win out, those tickets getting punched could be bus tickets for the 240 mile trip to Raymond James Stadium. But, let me say in closing; all you fans of the Jackets, the Hokies, The Cavaliers and the Tarheels, have faith…sometimes these things have a funny way of working themselves out.

I though about this scenario and I would think it would come down to how you did against the division. If this were the case then it would be madness but one of the Virginia teams would be counted out because Virginia and Va Tech plays in two weeks and one would go down with 4 losses. All other teams would have two division losses but I think it would go to the winner of the Virginia/Va Tech for the fact that look at the records head to head.

Virginia/Va Tech winner is 2-1 (both beat UNC & GaTech, lost to Miami)

UNC is 2-1 (Beat GaTech & Miami, Lost to Virginia teams)

Miami is 1-2 assuming they lose to Ga Tech next week

Ga Tech is 1-2 assuming they beat Miami

So with this scenario it would go between the winner of the UNC/Virginia teams which would put a Virginia team in the championship game.

Do not forget about Duke, currently they are 7-2, 3-2 with their conference wins over Virginia, Virginia Tech and NC State.

Duke vs FSU championship game = good times