Why do the US and UK want to invade Somalia?

They dont want to invade it, trust me. They just meant through African unity army officers or whatever there called. The uk army is overstrectched right now, never mind with trying to sort a lawless country out.

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The US tried this between 1992 and 1994, they sent in 30,000 US troops in addition to the 10,000 UN troops from 24 nations who were already there.

They gave up. (Remember Blackhawk Down?)

There are several options open.

Increase naval patrols as part of a UN mission.

Stop Aid going in to Somalia until the piracy stops, aid organisations have seriously decreased aid going in by sea due to the security situation - I accept this could be counterproductive as people would then be more desperate and then resort to piracy.

Divert all shipping, currently there is an advised 200 nautical mile cordon around Somalia for shipping, pirates are now taking ships from as far out as 210nm out. - the distances involved would be prohibitive, increase costs in time and fuel and make transporting goods less feasable

Have Private Armed Security on all vessels transiting this area - this is expensive and a gray area as far as maritime law is concerned, as soon as a vessel moves into another state's waters, that state's law applies.

Finally, and probably the most controvesial, refuse to pay ransoms, this would esult in the loss of vessels, and probably the death of the crews. If the pirates are not getting paid it will deter them from continuing the practice.

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I don't think they mean to invade, but certainly something needs to be done, Somalia has had no government for years, just a load of cutthroats.

Delighted to see that Indian warship had the balls to sink the pirate vessel the other day - about time someone did something positive.

Sorting out the warlords,pirate bases in Somalia and establishing military and Naval bases there would be strategic to counter threats in the East Africa theatre and to protect international shipping en route to the Suez.

If the western forces do go in then they should not ***** foot about but do it right next time.

Before US interference the Somalian Muslim government suppressed the pirates, but that group were destroyed by indirect US interference.

Yet again short-sighted self-centred US policies cause long term international problems

They are pretty much controlling the entrance to the Suez canal, and are operating at will, we cannot let them run around like Blue beard did in the Caribbean, they need to be brought into line and Somalia is a refuge for them

Alan H is right, the piracy began to because many Somali fisherman were upset that foreign ships were illegally fishing in Somali waters, as that was their only way of making a living. It's ignorant to believe that invasion of any country will stop some criminals and thieves from continuing whatever they're doing. Look at what recent colonization did to so many countries in Africa, including Somalia. Anarachy and poverty always ensued. The US already invaded Somali in 1993, I believe it was. They shot crowds of women, men, and children as they were ordered to do. Thousands of Somalis died while a handful of American soldiers died and as a result, Somalis were demonized in the US.

I copy and pasted my answer from another question because it's basically on the same topic:

You should know that the British, American, etc. media mostly edits out information that makes them look bad or evil, just like any other country's media.

For example, when American troops went into Somali as a peacekeeping mission, the US troops mostly shot and killed innocent civilians. Hundreds, or even thousands innocent Somalis were killed in just the three months that they were in Somalia. "The official estimate was 6-10,000 Somali casualties in the summer of 1993 alone, two-thirds women and children." "Most soldiers interviewed said that through most of the fight they fired on crowds and eventually at anyone and anything they saw." And when 18 US soldiers were killed, the media was all over it. You saw images of Somalis dragging the body around. But the numbers of Somali civilians murdered, or even that they were murdered was rarely heard of or reported on in the US.

Many UN peacekeepers have committed terrible crimes in Somalia as well, and the most punishment they recieved were a few months in jail... then they returned to the UN. "Totally UNexcusable are, amongst others, the sex scandals (the whole works including pedophilia, rape and prostitution) by UN Peace Keepers in DRC and in Haiti. Or the gruesome stories of Belgian UN Peace Keepers "roasting" a Somali boy." And I didn't hear about this on the news.

So, Somalis aren't the only ones shooting and killing innocent people. And do you really think that the British Army should go to Somalia to "sort this out", as if it were as simple as them just going down, getting rid of the big trouble-makers and restoring peace and order? Others have tried and I seriously doubt the British Army would succeed. You make it sound so simple, as if Somalis were too uncivilized and incompetent to do it themselves. They're trying, believe me. My uncle is a part of the transitional government trying to restore order, as are many other people I know. The general Somali population would be very much against and angered by any army or organization that comes into Somalia, trying to restore peace, and understandably so. Somalis have suffered close to a be under British and Italian rule for close to century. They have suffered murdered and disturbing physical abuse from foreign troops.

So, a way to help Somalia, instead of sending troops, would be to send money to support the transitional government in rebuilding Somalia (ie. to build and fund hospitals, get a national water system/sewage, etc.), to buy oil from Somalia (at fair prices!) where there is an abudant amount, to buy tropical fruits from Somalia (again, at fair prices)... basically build an import and exporting system so that Somalia's economy will grow. The Somali population would then see how their country is prospering under the transitional government's rule and be more supportive of that government. The Somali government should work out the internal conflicts themselves, and foreign governments may only intervene when asked by the Somali government. To intervene without government approval is like treating them as if they are unfit in coping with their own problems.

Cause it is a lawless land, with no government, Threatens all around it with gangster activity. has connections with Muslim extremists too . All not to the liking of Western governments , So change things to suit .. A case of saying to the upstart mobs there,,,, Do as you are told

A bit of revenge piracy; Gordon Brown has his stripy top on already in his role as a burglar from the UK taxpayer. lol