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What is your definition of faith and grace? ?

I was wondering what your definitions of faith and grace are and where did you learn your definitions. We do not belong to a church, but our group has been with God for over 25 years. We follow only what God has to say to us. We discern what his will is for us. We look to him in everything. We have binders and binders full of prophecies and teachings from God. We have many gifts verying from prophecy, interpretations, tongues (all of us have tongues), dreaming dreams, seeing demons,casting out demons, all of us have discernment and have been baptized in the Holy Spirit. I actually did my first interpretation last Saturday night. In some of our prophecies, God has told us that the churches are teaching their misunderstandings and are not teaching the true meanings of God's word. We have been taught that God is not the automatic wash machine that the church teaches. He has taught us that he doesn't want us to pray for everyone. He has taught us that he does give up on some people and doesn't strive to save them. He does pick and choose who his people are. Israel or his chosen people are not the Jewish anymore. His true children are those who follow him in the true way. Looking only to him, not to preists, pastors, rabbis or following the traditions of their religion. He has taught us that he will have a person do something that seems wrong to those who claim to follow him. But because it is given from him, that it is ok to do. This has included murder, living together before marriage, a child out of wedlock, just many many things. These were only done with God's blessing. The point is that if God gives it to do then it is ok, but other times he will not put an ok on it. We have a member who was single for many years, lonely and working all the time. He was working fixing something in a whore house and God gave him the ok to be with one of the girls. This person chose not to do it, but it was his own righteousness and not Gods. He even had one of our members buy marijuana for someone just to calm them down, long enough for them to be ministered to. Now I know that the church will teach that this is wrong. But we know it to be true, and from God. He has also taught us that the definition of faith is not to have belief in him, to follow him unconditonally etc. FAITH is what he gives you, what he tells you to do, what he leads you to do, and then following it. He gives the faith. The woman in Matthew with the bleeding problem wasn't healed because of her faith in Jesus and touching his garment. She was healed because God told her to go and she went. Because she followed God's lead. I was in the hospital with a possible miscarriage, God told me that she would be ok, I felt complete peace,I knew it was God's voice and I believed. It wasn't my unconditional belief in him. It was that he spoke the word and I agreed with it. He gives you something and you are to follow, that is faith. Believing in him is not faith, even Satan believes in God. Grace is not unmerited favor. Jesus was full of grace and he really didn't need unmerited favor. Grace is the experiences that God send you through. It is the suffering, it is the experience he sends you through that will teach you or teach someone else from it. Grace is given from God, experiences are given from God. Grace is not pardon from God. We say faith is the preacher, grace is the teacher. Faith is God's words and will for us, grace is the experiences that teach us.Another thing that we have learned is that an idle word or work is when God gives you something to do or say and you don't do it, or he doesn't want you to do or say anything and you do it. Many of the so called christians are out there preaching and trying to save everyone, when in truth it is not from god. These are just many of the things we have learned from God over the years. So what are your definitions and thoughts on these things I have said? Also, can you tell me why a righteous man is scarcely saved? I can tell you.

Update:

CJ, you are exactly the type of Christian who is misinformed. I also have a lesson on faith and works that you should be interested in.

Update 2:

Satan believes in Jesus and all the things you are preaching. Is he saved? Is he going to heaven?

Update 3:

loufedal, you are wrong. This is exactly what I'm saying about the churches teaching misunderstanding and wrong doctrine.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Faith is believing that something is true and that it will work. For instance, when you go to sit down into a chair, you have faith that it will support your weight. Faith is the opposite of doubt.

    Grace is unmerited favor. For instance if after being by your mother to handle the eggs with care, you carelessly drop them and they break, and your mother does not punish you, but helps you clean up the mess, that is grace.

    Gods greatest example of grace, was when He sent His only Son, to die on the cross as a final sacrifice for the sin of mankind. That was grace amazing.

  • 1 decade ago

    Faith is wishful thinking. Grace is the absence of starch.

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