muslims and the Koran?

I am happy you are asking us, muslims to inform you, and you do not belame us without evidence.Actually Islam does not support killing of anybody western or not, white or black.And this is the teaching of the quran.The verses are as many to make it clear that killing (without a reason) is highly prevented in islam to the level of excuting the murderer ,and this tough law is to conserve lifes of the community.

After telling the story of the sons of Adam (one of them killed his brother) there is a verse translated like this; 5:32. For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth. Y S C

Pickthal's Quran Translation

another translation; 5:32. On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. S P C

Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

Believing in the quran certainly is leading you to be a muslim,but you will not be a muslim unless to complete the (shahada).Stating that there is no god except Allah,and Mohammed is the prophet of Allah.

Searching on the net ,I do not know if the country you live in is free or not giving you freedom for your beliefs , but I don't imagine that this is preventable!

I let this lastly, because, If islam call for killing we Are more than billion and if every one if killed some person the others will die in five days, but instead there are some people who do not understand the goals of islam based on certaininformation I will summarise; Islam kills people in ;

1.formal war i.e if a muslim country is involved in a war and the enemy is killing us, we have to fight him

2. If some one is fighting you to e.g kill you ,prevent you from being a muslim by force,steal your money,or insult himself in your morals or your family(e.g trying to rape your wife )

2.If some one kills snother he should be killed, but through court

As Islam is a one religion , bombers ((may)) think that the jihad is allowed to kill a jewish in one country if a muslim is being killed in another by a jewish for ,example.So they took the law by themselves and this is their problem.But our problem is that we handled these people by force not by discussion.However this is only an opinion and it is so complicated to be understandable, even for muslims, if it is true or not,but I myself feel it is not true to kill innoent people by transferring their battle to another country .

Lastly the , prophet when send an army ,in a formal war ,recommend for the commander that; do not kill animals ,women, elderly people ,and do not cut trees.

below are the first verse that declared the jihad after muslims being totured for many years with unblievers for no thing except that they changed their religion;

22:38. Verily Allah will defend (from ill) those who believe: verily, Allah loveth not any that is a traitor to faith, or show ingratitude. S P

22:39. To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;- S P C

22:40. (They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,- (for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will). S P C

Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

Ummm when Islam started there were eventually Jews and Christians living under the rule of Islam in the middle east. Even when Salahuddin got Jerusalam, he didnt kill innocent Christians when the crusaders killed many. To make it short, Islam is a way of life to respect all of God's creation and not to force ones will on another. Sadly many so called Muslims dont know that as they mix Political conflicts with religion. America has mingled to much in local politics in the Muslim countries and is part of the problem and not the solution as America is also about control, putting fear and making off money to satisfy greed. The conflicts are too big for an average mind to comprehend. On hand America said it wants freedom for people and started an illegal war in Iraq just for Oil. Now because of the ill distribution of health, the whole world will suffer economically. Bush and co made off with good money making these terrorists to pray off innocent Muslims and Non Muslims alike. The victims of terrorists attacks are Muslims too.Peace, Love and Blessings!

Here is some “good advice” from the Quran: Abraham said that Muslims and the infidels will be hated enemies forever until they convert to Islam. (60:4)

If you fight against Allah or Muhammad you will be killed, crucified, have your hands and feet cut off or you will be exiled. 5:33

It is easy for Allah to send people to hell. 4:169

Christians and Jews must convert or pay a special tax (the jyzia) created to humiliate them 9:29

The Jewish tribe Banu Qurayza betrayed Muhammad so: “Allah brought (those Jews) down from their strongholds... Some of them (the men) were slain, others (the women) were captured (and sold into slavery). And He caused you (Muslims) to inherit their land and their houses and their wealth...” (33:26-27)

Allah promised Muhammad and his Muslim soldiers that they will capture a lot of booty and spoils of war (48:19-20) if they attack and conquer Khaybar and Makka.

Allah could have banned slavery outright in the Quran but left the issue up to Muslims to interpret as they saw fit. The result... Muslims practiced slavery (30:28), as well as sexual-slavery (23:6, 70:30), victimizing tens of millions of people, for over a thousand years. The Muslim’s most holy country, Saudi Arabia, did not ban slavery until 1962.

> it was said that all muslims follow the Koran and

> in it it says all white/westerners must die

If the Quran said this then it must have been written by George Bush and instead of the whites it would be the Muslims .. stop hallucinating :)

The Quran contradicts itself a lot just as the bible does. The Quran commands violence against unbelievers and they be dominated. It also commands love and fairness. You can justify anything with the Quran or the bible.

I'm a white Muslim. Islam is completely against racism of any kind. Terrorists kill more Muslims than anyone else.

...my ignorance ...this is the key point.when Quran was revealed ,westerners had no importance.Some terrorists attack westerners .this is true .some of them are not terrorist action, Ernesto Che Guevara was muslim? and when hezbullah bombed american army they were not terrorist.or vietnamese people were killing westerners whereever they find

why do u have discussion with your friends concerning this? i mean all of u are ignorant, they are as illiterateconcerning the qur'an as u are so i really suggest you read the qur'an yourself and see....you neednt believe what people say...