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Can people who oppose universal health care in the US provide some real arguments?
I am absolutely pro-universal health care, however, I am not sure that the government should be that infamous "single payer". I'd like a healthy debate on this issue. So, please, those who oppose universal health care, can you please provide arguments? To those who just like to waste everybody's time showing their stupidity: please, refrain from posting your answers. Thank you.
MATT - you already pay them, friend: you tax dollars pay for Medicare which is government-run, government-paid and - guess what? - covers those Congressmen who so much oppose it :)
Also, your tax dollars pay for those who don't have any insurance (about 45 million people) and, thus, have to go to Emergency rooms.
CHARLIE - I don't like monopolies, either but I don't see any efficiency in the current system when 35% of all cost is spend on bureaucracy in the system. Plus, let's not forget that if you run a business, your main goal is to make money. If health care is run as business, then "care" takes a back seat (ex. waterfall of denials of coverage which increases profits).
KC - Absolutely, man. +1
DUKEMACK - you know, frankly, I am totally puzzled why people even bring up the "choice of doctors" issue here. I mean, it just doesn't make sense if you really think about it. I can tell you from both my personal experience and that of my friends and colleagues that there have been countless occasions when we, covered by private health insurance, COULD NOT have a doctor or a hospital of our choice because our insurer woudn't cover it.
In universal health care, there may be (and I actually think - for the sake of free enterpreneurship - there shoudl be) a possibility of "opt out". But I just don't see how those "opt outs" would stay in biz.
TO TRYAD: I believe you are wrong on all positions you've outllined except - to certain degree - the thesis about illegals. I am against illegal immigration and agree that they're an extra burden on the system.
BOBBI - I'd be happy to discuss these points but I don't see any data backup for your statements. Do you have links? For example, what makes you so sure that universal health care wouldn't let you have certain procedures/surgeries?
WARREN T: HOW do you know that it will cost more? I'm curious because we've never had universal health care in the US before. Can you provide a link to an independent comparative study?
NICOLAI - no system is perfect, I am sure of that. There's ALWAYS going to be a problem of rising cost whether we're talking about private or universal health care. For me, however, the bottom-line is what suits the interests of the public best.
TO ALL RESPONDENTS: thanks a million for your answers. It may not be a full-fledged debate yet, but I think we sure have a good start. I'll drink to that :)
TO ALL: here's a small example of what makes me believe universal health care is THE solution (it's just an article but well written by somebody who sure can count the money):
TO ALL: one of the strongest arguments for my position in favor of universal health care is the fact that I practice real estate and I'm the first one to know what's the cause #1 for personal bankruptcies (they usually go hand to hand with foreclosures). You guessed right: people's medical bills! And that's not all - about 70% of those who'd gone bankrupt actually HAD a health insurance.
To me, this is just WRONG on all levels and, most of all this is ultimately UNAMERICAN!
9 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
I just don't feel right about living a healthy lifestyle and having to pay the hospital bills of those who don't.
- TryadLv 41 decade ago
For one competition is the healthiest way to keep health care costs down. The reason health care costs are rising so high is due primarily to Illegal Immigration. They use and do not pay for the services rendered. SO the hospital needs to make up for the loss, in doing so they raise there prices and charge insurance companies which in return they charge us a higher premium.
. Take a look at Canada's Universal health care system. People are taxed on there income there 55%. And the government dictates what tests or procedures you can and cannot have. For some of the bigger tests like an MRI there is a 6 month waiting list. A dog can get an MRI faster than a citizen.
Universal health care looks good on paper, but it is extremely expensive, and where is our government going to get the money for it? You got it higher taxes.
- 1 decade ago
I'm from Canada and I'm all for universal health care. That said, I don't think there is anything wrong with privatization in that if you have the money and the insurance to pay for a quicker surgery date, then by all means. That only frees up the system and lessens wait times for those that don't have the money. I pay my taxes, I have health coverage through my parents (I'm a university student at the moment) and I'm all too happy to help out those less fortunate with their health care. It's one of the few complete social programs I believe in. Everyone has a right to proper health.
To Matt above...It's not just about a healthy lifestyle. I've made several trips to the emergency room from different sports injuries. I have had several MRI's and XRays from a pedestrian accident. It's comforting to know that I'll never have to hear "No, you're not covered for this".
And Canadian doctors are some of the most well trained doctors in the world. If they're in it just for the money in the first place, I really hope they aren't my doctor.
- 1 decade ago
Universal health care does bring some great satisfying benefits, i'm from Britain were like Canada health care is more or less universal. The main problems facing the National Health Service is largly costs, as medicines become more expensive this forces the government to pay out more and more money to the NHS, in the end this can lead to tax increases. Also it results in private hospitals being set up that provide a better quality of service to those who can pay for it, thus it does not solve the inequality issue.
The doctors in NHS hospitals are just as committed to their work as in doctors are in the private sector, largly because your working to cure others, anyone with morals will still put the effort in to work as best they can. NHS doctors are also still well paid, General practitioners over here earn fortunes. But the big problem is i think the cost of it all. It can lead to patients being denied the most advanced, and effective but most expensive drugs because they have to be rationed in some cases and very carefully distributed to patients.
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- BobbiLv 71 decade ago
Universal health care means (eventually) rationed care. You can find examples of this already in the federal health care programs here in the United States. Certain cancer treatments are not allowed because of the cost. Also, does Medicaid pay for infertility? cosmetic surgery? if your child has a non-cancerous tumor growth on his lip, that is not affecting his health, the SCHIPP program will not pay for its removal (cosmetic). The government needs to get out of health care. If they really cared about cost, they would have consolidated all the medical programs they operate. The free market health care plans would be cheaper if they were not deep in government regulations. Government plans should be for those w/ disabilities. Give tax credits for people to buy a plan for THEIR needs.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
1) Cost - who will pay for this.
2) Access - each country that has this has a control feature to limit access to docs. - are you proposing this or will this be an added cost ?
3) Choice of doctors - as many current docs have opted out of medicare or other plans, will docs be allowed to opt out of your plan ?
The major problems that my sister from Canada points out are limited access to docs and that some conditions are not treated in best manner possible (she likes to get allergy shots, they arent covered). As a side note, sister comes down to states to go to doctor.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Well there is the lack of competition, the complete and total lack of speed and efficiency in anything to government touches and it lacks incentive for a doctor to be the best. Since no one is paying for any medical care but the government why would a person study hard to be a neurosurgeon versus say an anesthesiologist.
- Warren TLv 71 decade ago
ABSOLUTELY, IT WILL COST A LOT MORE AND BE WORSE. THIS COUNTRY CANNOT AFFORD IT. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE COSTS IS HAWAII.