Will there be a (secret)rapture?matthew24:26.before the tribulation?matthew24:29-31.?

There is no rapture, that is a false teaching.

JESUS IS COMING AGAIN. He just is NOT taking us out of this world while singing, "I'll fly away". I use to believe in THE RAPTURE. Then I found Chapter 17 of John. JESUS is in the garden just before his death praying for US - YOU AND ME.

John 17:15 (JESUS praying to The Father) "I pray NOT that thou shouldest TAKE THEM OUT OF THE WORLD, but that thou should keep them from evil."

Verse 20 - Neither pray I for these alone but for them also which shall believe on me through their word. (That is you and me.)

If JESUS asked NOT to take us OUT, we're NOT going! The Rapture theory has nothing to do with your Salvation. Just make sure you are ready to meet Jesus, no matter how or when you die, or when Jesus returns to the earth to set up His Kingdom.

Matthew 24:37-41 (Jesus speaking) But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days that were before the flood, THEY (the wicked) were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark. And THEY (the wicked) knew not until the flood came and took THEM (the wicked) ALL AWAY; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.

THEY and THEM are clearly the WICKED (ungodly unbelievers).

Verse 40 - Then shall two be in the field, the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN, and the other left.

Two shall be grinding at the mill; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN and the other left.

Luke 17:26, 27 and 34-36 (Jesus speaking) As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the day of the Son of Man. THEY (the WICKED) did eat, THEY (the WICKED) did drink, THEY (the WICKED) married wives, THEY (the WICKED) were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came and destroyed THEM (the WICKED) all.

...I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed,; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

Two women shall be grinding together; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

Two men shall be in the field; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

RAPTURE believers think THEY will be the ONE TAKEN. If you think YOU will be TAKEN, lets see what Jesus says will happen to you.

Luke 17:37, Jesus answers the disciples question of what happens to the TAKEN ONES. Jesus said, WHERE THERE IS A DEAD BODY, THERE THE VULTURES WILL GATHER.

2 Peter 2:5 (Peter speaking) (God) saved (kept safe) Noah...bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly (WICKED).

Matthew 13:24-30 The parable of the wheat and the tares. Gather together FIRST THE TARES. Jesus continues, The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they will gather OUT of His Kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity....

Luke 17:29,30 (Jesus speaking) ...(in) Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from Heaven and destroyed THEM ALL. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. THE WICKED were destroyed, once again.

Matthew 13:47-50 (Jesus speaking) Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a net that was cast into the sea and gathered of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but THREW THE BAD AWAY. So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and SEVER THE WICKED from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire...

Once again the GOOD remain and the BAD are thrown away. THE WICKED TAKEN and destroyed "from among the just," who remain on the earth.

I Thessalonians 5:3 (Paul speaking) For when THEY (THE WICKED) shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction shall come upon THEM...and they shall not escape.

Matthew 24:21,22 and Mark 13:19,20 (Jesus speaking) For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved (survive); but for THE ELECT's sake whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

How can there be THE ELECT during this time IF they went in THE RAPTURE?

ELECT is also mentioned in Luke 18:7; Romans 8:33; Colossians 3:12; Titus 1:1

Proverbs 2:21, 22 For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall REMAIN in it, but THE WICKED shall be cut off (taken/destroyed) from the earth and the transgressors shall be rooted OUT of it.

Psalm 145:20 The Lord preserveth ALL that love him; but ALL THE WICKED He will destroy.

Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall NEVER be REMOVED;

Proverbs 11:31 The righteous shall be recompensed IN the (world) earth...

Psalm 101:8 I (God) will early (first) destroy THE WICKED of the land...

Psalm 119:119 All THE WICKED of the earth you discard (throw away) like dross.

Proverbs 25:4,5 Take AWAY the dross from the silver...Take AWAY THE WICKED from before the King...

Isaiah 5:24 and 29:5 The flame consumeth the chaff (WICKED).

Job 21:18 THEY (THE WICKED) are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carrieth AWAY.

Job 38:13 (Speaking to God) ...take hold of the ends of the earth that THE WICKED might be shaken OUT of it.

Malachi 4:1 For behold the day cometh...and all that do WICKEDLY, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up...

Psalm 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land (earth) and dwell therein FOREVER.

Psalm 37:9-11 For evildoers (WICKED) shall be cut off (destroyed); but those that wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth.

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger...and He shall destroy the sinners thereof OUT of it (the earth).

Psalm 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed OUT OF THE EARTH (world), and let the wicked be no more.

Psalm 52:5 God shall likewise destroy THEE (THE WICKED) forever; He shall take THEE AWAY, and pluck THEE OUT of thy dwelling place.

The above are just some of the Scriptures that make it CLEAR that the righteous STAY, and THE WICKED GO.

Ezekiel 9:4-6 and Revelation 9:3,4 talk about THE WICKED being destroyed in the midst of the RIGHTEOUS.

Was Job raptured out of his time of tribulation (testing)? NO

Was Joseph raptured out of the pit or prison? NO

Was Daniel raptured out of the lion's den? NO

Was King David raptured out of all his tribulation? NO

Exodus 7:18 through 12:30 records the Israelites were IN Egypt for all ten plagues of God's wrath.

Was Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego raptured out of the firery furnace? NO

Was Jesus or any of the Apostles raptured out of their persecution? NO

Was Paul raptured out of all his tribulations (2 Corithians 11:23-27)? NO

NO RAPTURE, JUST MUCH TRIBULATION

1 Thessalonians 4:17 is the SINGLE Scripture used to justify THE RAPTURE by false doctrine. Based on Scripture, you cannot make a doctrine on a SINGLE Scripture. The word RAPTURE does not appear in the text of any translation of the Bible, in any language.

"CAUGHT UP" are the words used by many when referring to THE RAPTURE. King James must have missed this one because the words "CAUGHT UP" are not found in the Young's Concordance for 1 Thessalonians 4:17. However, "CATCH" is listed under that Scripture. That word appears 13 times, and is translated six different ways: catch, catch away, catch (caught) up, pluck and take by force. In the 12 other Scriptures, it has nothing to do with the physical removal of living people from the earth/world to heaven.

Also in THE RAPTURE CHAPTER, 1 Thessalonians 4:17, is to meet the lord IN THE AIR. According to the Strong's and Young's concordance, "AIR" is the Greek word "AER", as used in the following Scriptures:

Acts 22:23, ...and threw dust into the air (AER).

1 Corinthians 9:26, ...not as one who beateth the air (AER).

1 Corinthians 14:9, ...for ye shall speak in the air (AER).

Another Greek word which is also translated, AIR, in the KJV of the Bible is OURANOS. That translation is found in Matthew 6:26, 8:20, 13:32; Mark 4:4 and 32; Luke 8:5, 9:58, 13:19 and Acts 10:12, 11:6. Each one of these Scriptures refer to "the birds/fowls of the air (ouranos).

Grab a handful of dirt and throw it into the air. That's about where you would be hanging IF there were to be a RAPTURE, based on the recorded meaning of the word AIR.

Next we have the phrase "with them in the CLOUDS". If you look outside, you can see the clouds WAY UP there. BUT, is that what the Scripture means? No.

In the following Scriptures, the CLOUD came DOWN to earth:

Matthew 17:5; Mark 9:7; Luke 9:34

In 1Corinthians 10:1,2, they were UNDER the CLOUD, and were baptized IN the CLOUD.

Hebrews 11:36 through 12:2 talks about SO GREAT A CLOUD OF WITNESSES.

With all of the above, let us read 1 Thessalonians 4, beginning at verse 13, with a much more accurate and clearer understanding of the words and terms used therein. For clarity, the following Scripture quotes from 1 Thessalonians are in capital letters.

"BUT I WOULD NOT HAVE YOU IGNORANT, BRETHREN, CONCERNING THEM WHICH ARE ASLEEP (this Scripture is primarily about the departed/dead saints in Christ) THAT YE SORROW NOT, EVEN AS OTHERS WHICH HAVE NO HOPE (the Sadducees did not believe in a resurrection). FOR IF WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN (we all believe that), EVEN SO (in like manner) THEM ALSO WHICH SLEEP (are dead) IN JESUS WILL GOD BRING WITH HIM (Jesus). FOR THIS WE SAY UNTO YOU BY THE WORD OF THE LORD, THAT WE (Biblical believers) WHO ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN (on earth) UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD SHALL NOT PREVENT (precede) (have any advantage over) THEM WHICH ARE ASLEEP. FOR THE LORD HIMSELF SHALL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN (Acts 1:11, Jesus went directly from earth to Heav

I'm gonna try to break it on down for you, so listen up and read.

1. This is where Jesus is teaching right next to the temple, the people he's referring to are the JEWS not the Christians. vs1

2. The Gospel He talks about is the Bible being preached to everybody in the world. vs 14

3. The abomination is the mosque that is sitting on the holy place (Temple built by Solomon) vs 15 (Muslims now hate me, it's the Bible that says this stuff not me so don't be hating me for saying the truth)

4. The Jews will flee into the mountains from the enemies that are trying to destroy them (it's called Petra, it's real google it). vs 16-22

5. They (Jews and enemies of Israel) will see Jesus as He descends from the clouds and destroys the badguys. vs 27

6. The Christians will be gone before then in the rapture.

7. For a easy to understand story read The Last Jihad by Joel Rosenberg, he's amazing the way he lays it out.

PS: I know that the Atheist will call me a fool and the Muslims will now declare Jihad on me)

the secret about the rapture is there is no secret. if we study God's word Daily through prayer asking for the guidance of The Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus Christ we find out that the rapture takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ. He shall appear in the clouds and send his angels to rapture his people up to meet Him in the clouds.

Rapture comes before Tribulation when we'll meet Jesus in the clouds (not second coming-only believers see him). During the Tribulation there will be people becoming believers who will be martyred for their beliefs and will not accept the Mark. At the end of Tribulations is the return of Christ (Second Coming) for every eye to see. The church will be returning with Christ at his Second Coming.

there will be a secret catching away of the bride.

if you keep isolating scriptures you will get lost Mark.

do you think for one moment the world will see him NEVER.

remember what JESUS said to his deciples when they asked him why he never revealed the things he taught them to the mulitudes . he said it is not for them to know but for you to know.

he is talking to his bride.

if you look at the life of Joseph in egypt he was the very type of the lord jesus christ.

his bride was in the palace as he revealed him self onto his breathern .

the bride of christ will be in the palace also who's husband is JESUS and then he leaves them there and goes and reavels himself to the 144.000 12 thousand of every tribe in ISRAEL. .

and then every eye shall see him ...not the world but the chosen of israel.

ROME teaches the doctrine you hold too.

that there is no secret rapture. you are wrong my friend satan lie's to you and if you hold that filthy doctrine of rome its just like holding onto the doctrine of trinity witch is those 3 filthy frogs coming out of the mouth of the false prophet THE POPE'S OF ROME.

also do you not know there is a foolish virgin THESE will go threw the tribulation not the bride. remember they are still virgin. they kept them clean and so they died for the word of truth they had .

also the bride does not die for as you stated your self they are raptured

the bible doe's not contidict itself ..but bro' mark you are contradicting yourself .

i have wrote to you many time by the holy spirit TRUTH and you have not as yet wrote back and said yes the bible is right in the revelation the Lord has given me.

whats wrong mark... well i will tell you you can never reply to the holy ghost when he shows you its true what i by the spirit of god have wrote to you many times.

you are all over the place in scripture what you need is the holy ghost to teach you and to pull the scriptures together for you for the word is like a chian [ a three fold cord] he put link upon link upon link ect' ect' together until you see the full revelation of the word. faith is revelation and thats why we are called Abrahams children for god first spoke to him and so he beilieved god and it was counted to him for rieghiousness.

and so are we.

i have asked you to go to websites and i can see you have not done it for you are still in false doctrine ... yet not far off from the truth you are close to it.

so again i would ask you to go to these websites to find truth.

www.wordofgodlastdays.com

and www.branham.org.

if you reject the truth in these web-sites according to the holy ghost and his word of truth then the Lord will reject you on that day.

so its up to you will you go and read what in those sites.

okay i will let you go the Lord bless you in all i have told you for i have THUS SAITH THE LORD.

bro' charles. from ireland.

1. In a trivia game.......out of these people, who will win? A. Naruto B. Kiba C. Kankuro* 2. In Wheel of Fortune.....Who do u think will win? A. Tsunade B. Kakashi* (He reads) C. Jiraiya D. Gai 3. One day, u were watching the news. U heard that Masashi Kishmoto got killed. What do u do? OMG! We need to plan a funeral! 4. In a model show. Out of these contestants, who do u think will win? A. Naruto! B. Konohamaru! C. Gai D. Sakura E. Kurenai* 5. If u saw Orochimaru ate a snake, how will u react? A. Awesome! B. cool..... C. WTF??? D. *pukes* E. Poor snake.... F. disgusted G. Cannabal! 6. In ur opinion. Which Naruto character has the most unique hair? Hmm...Kakashi's snowy hair

THE RAPTURE happens BEFORE the tribulation dear. when jesus comes back...there will be 2 in the field 1 gone and 1 left behind. when every eye see him that will be after he has taken his sheep.. god bless!

The fundie doctrine or rapture is based on wron interpretation of the Bible.

No there will not be a secret rapture when Christ comes the whole world will know.

Yes, that is the night when all the frogs and arachnids will magically waft upwards in tandem towards the hoped for perfect end.

i believe the saints will go into the tribulation and will be raptured.