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J S
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J S asked in EnvironmentGlobal Warming · 1 decade ago

Are there "record snows" or "more ice today than in 1979"?

What global evidence is there to support such wild claims?

Why would someone even make them?

Update:

You have a point there... North Dakota IS the world to some people!

Update 2:

Funny that the people who claim there is evidence provide none!

Update 3:

An answer provided to a skeptics' recent question:

"This

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_im...

leaves little doubt that the dailytech blog is utter fiction.

The current level of Arctic ice is (in the middle of winter) down to the record low levels seen in 07/08 and nowhere near the 1979 average and no amount of chanting about faith, believer, alarmist or what ever this weeks weak attempt at an insult is, will change the data.

A number of deniers here claim they are skeptics o.k. here's you chance the above nsidc link proves that the dailytech link is a lie, a skeptic would say o.k I still don't think GW is happening but this piece of information is incorrect.

A denier on the other hand, would attempt to make some insult directed at Gore or Hansen and start some irrelevant nonsense about world communist plots."

Clearly the "more ice today than 1979" claim was completely disproven. Could "skeptics" get any more dishonest?

Update 4:

Oh my... a few weather events! Pop quiz... if you look at 10,000 places that sometimes get snow, how many of them will break 100 year records in ANY given year? I'm no statistics whiz, but won't the answer be pretty close to 100?

Who's the fool?

Is there any sceintist anywhere that has concluded that this is a particularly snowy year, or do you get all of your knowledge from from the geniuses who produce TV news (created for drama and entertainment value, to sell advertising)?

Even your TV news data is incorrect. Las Vegas received 7.5 inches of snow at McCarran on Jan. 30-31, 1979, less than 40 years ago.

Neither of these reckless claims seems to have any remote basis in fact.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    There is indeed evidence....that the claims are both false.

    Global snowcover has a long-term downward trend in the spring and summer (also in the fall, but it's not a statistically significant trend).

    http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/heavy-snow-...

    And global sea ice has decreased since 1979.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aj6hp...

  • JimZ
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    You suggested:

    "if you look at 10,000 places that sometimes get snow, how many of them will break 100 year records in ANY given year? I'm no statistics whiz, but won't the answer be pretty close to 100?"

    That would be assuming we haven't been warming for 300 years since the Maunder Minimum

    Here is a link since you don't seem to believe anything except gloom and doom.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum

    That was the time of the Little Ice Age

    For me, one year doesn't make a trend but the relatively cold time corresponds to the lack of sun spots. I assume you alarmists believe that there is correlation and that it isn't just a coincidence, but I suppose that might interfer with your unfounded belief that CO2 is driving the climate.

    News Flash. It isn't.

  • davem
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Last year the entire nothern hemisphere was below average in temperature, which is far more important that precipitation though in parts of eastern Canada it was the second snowiest winter on record after that of 1971.

    The important concern is not precipitation though, it's temperature. The temps are lower, not sure about precip but that's more a regional thing. It's too early to see whether this winter is record breaking, as you ask. Last winter was though, in terms of temp.

  • 1 decade ago

    It has never snowed in Kenya, until this year.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7596134.stm

    It never snows in the Saharan countries of Morroco and Algiers, until this year.

    http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_rec.php?id=8014

    Vegas has its biggest snow storm in more than forty years.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468344,00.html

    Sydney's a nice warm place isn't it? It would never snow there, yet it did:

    http://www.wanderlust.co.uk/article.php?page_id=22...

    For the first time in seventy years it snowed in London during October.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/oct/29/weather-l...

    This one is from last January but a good one, first snow fall in Baghdad in one hundered years.

    http://en.rian.ru/world/20080112/96362898.html

    You know with just a couple of minutes of googling and you could avoid looking like the fool.

  • beren
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Philadelphia has received maybe an inch of snow this winter. Hardly a record breaker.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Your very high on yourself, knowledge and education without humility are of no value. The fact is no one has a real clue on climate change it is speculation at best and fraud at worst.

  • 1 decade ago

    Many states have received their annual average of snow by mid December and there's still 3 - 4 months left of winter.

    It's easy to check, even easier to believe what others tell you.

  • 1 decade ago

    Ok I think the links have been posted on that one.

  • 1 decade ago

    NASA says there is less arctic ice than in 1979 and even has a video about it, see link below.

    Facts shmacts!

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    ah! here it is - north dakota!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28507983/

    so it must be true for the rest of the world, eh?

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