Enough! Why do SOME Christians insist that Hitler was an atheist when he was in fact raised Christian?

Because they think that lying for god is a good thing to do, Hitler was a christian and made statements in mein kampf to the fact

http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

The link has irrefutable proof of the link between christianity and the Nazis. German soldiers were all issued with belt buckles saying Gott mit uns (god is with us) doesn't sound like a very atheistic message to me. check out the dozen or so other christian cross mementos and medals issued by the Nazis

Those thumbs down are like howls of pain

To be honest, because us Christians are no more immune to foolishness than others. In fact, Hitler's religious background is confusing. I remember reading that he may have had Jewish background and that his hatred of his own past may have inspired the holocaust.

However, the simple truth is that Hitler believed himself to be Christian. It is a sad reminder that Christians can fall far from the truth. His hatred and reign were one of the greatest terrors of my lifetime. And yes they were inspired by a Christian.

However, in fairness, there is some of Darwin in Hitler also. His program of creating the perfect race was entirely a Darwinian genetics project aimed at breeding the right men with the right women. So Darwinism played a significant part in Hitler's work.

Also in fairness, I appreciate that you said some, the same needs to be said about atheism. There are some who also some atheists who deny the truth about atheism.

For example, one answer decries the Christians who say Mao Zhe Dong was an atheist when he is really a communist is playing the same game.

Communism denies the existence of a God and forbids organized religion (the communism mentioned). This is not any different from atheists here everyday. The fact that they had a particular financial point of view doesn't make them any less atheists.

The truth is that both Christians and atheists have some excellent people in history who have done much good. Both have also had persons who have done much evil.

Pastor John

I'm an atheist so I can't give a Christian point of view, but I agree. If Hitler actually was an atheist and Christians used this point to frown apon atheism, this would be bad enough because he's just one man and not all atheists are like that. But indeed Hitler believed in God (or at least claimed to, who knows what went on in his head), so using the argument that atheism leads to people like Hitler is completely irrelevant and untrue. Some atheists are good people and some theists are bad people, and vice versa. Fact is, either way Hitler was clearly insane, regardless of religion.

Probably They are judging him on his actions and most people would think he was a Atheist. If you or anybody thinks he was a Christian then your as mentally deranged as he was.A simple study of his life will tell you how sick,delusional,hate monger,racist and paranoid he was. It doesn't matter if he was raised Catholic or said he was a Christian. Talk is cheap,and that's how he got in power.

No one is a liar if they believe in there heart that he was a atheist.

But I'll tell you one thing for sure,out of all the murdering of innocent people he did he cannot be forgiven for one thing.This will prove without a doubt that he didn't follow Christ.He proved it himself.

It was the cyanide cap he dropped and the 7.65mm bullet from a walther ppk that went into his head after he pulled the trigger.

Suicide!

The unforgivable sin. He was not a Christian, plain and simple.

Catholics were not the first Christians, so do some research before you pretend to know what you are talking about.

Jews were the first Christians. They were followers of the teachings of Jesus Christ... hence... CHRISTIAN.

A person's religious upbringing in no way determines whether they are active members of that religion. You can see that just by looking at some of the questions around here. So asserting that because Hitler was raised as a Catholic, in no way means that he adhered to the fundamental teachings of the Catholic church, let alone to the teachings of Christ.

Looking at a person's beliefs is more important than the name that is attached to them. I'm not going to assert that Hitler was an atheist, because I don't know enough about his life. I can infer, from what he did, and from the basic premise of your question, that he was not however a Christian, whether he used the term to describe himself or not.

Hitler was neither. He had his own set of beliefs. Among other things, he believed that white people came here from an ice moon that crashed in the Caucasus mountains somewhere. He believed that babies born in cemeteries inherited the souls of dead warriors. He consulted his own personal fortune teller. Hitler wrote that he was a Christian in Mein Kampf, but he's also quoted as saying that Christianity was started by St. Paul, and that a person cannot be both German and Christian.

A quarter Jewish and the rest Christian.

This does not show that he believed. I really don't know what he believed in, and one can never know. No one can ask him now. A person's going to church does not prove he's religious. He may have other ideas and motives for doing so.

His not going to church does not prove his not believing either. He may have developed something against churches for example.

I can definitely understand why people want to believe he was an atheist. One can always say that a true believer would not be able to sin in such a way.

People do find motifs in religion to cover up for their motives and make themselves believe them too.

Hitler was a freak. Whether he was a believer or not does not change that. He was evil plus completely nuts, had to be taken to an asylum, and instead people carried him to the top of their government.

May he burn in hell if there is a hell, may he sleep in a total nightmare if sleep is what death means, and may he never wake up if there will ever be an awakening.

Plenty of atheists have been raised Christian

Hitler was not an atheist but a believer in 'natural Providence' for his master race and seemed interested in the 'occult', which he also seemed to ridicule.

Hitler hated Christianity especially Catholic Christianity

Even though for socio-polical reasons Hitler never publically renounced church membership, the elimination of Catholicsm as incompatible with Nazism was high on his list.

His mother was the active Catholic one and not Jewish, but there were rumors of some jewish roots in Hitler's family

His atrocities were of secular and not at all of religious motivation

Murder is completely contrary to Christian ethics and that people claiming Christian motivation murdered does not invalidate the teachings of Christianity any more than the militant atheism of Mao, Stalin ,etc makes profession of atheism automatically murderous

He was raised Catholic and I think at one time was in a seminary, possibly just for education, not to be a priest. I don't know he had a Jewish mother, there have been rumors he was part Jewish and that is why he hated Jews, but I don't know that is true.

Josef Stalin also was educated in a seminary, I think Russian Orthodox or something. If you take all the people who were raised in a religion who have done terrible things, it would fill a library. He used God or Jesus or the Jews killed Christ as an excuse, but I think he did that to make an excuse when he knew real Christians would question his ideas.

I don't deny he was raised or even educated Catholic. But just as Islamic terrorists are not truly following their religion, we all know, no matter what excuse he used, Hitler was not following his; and any Christian church is not to blame for his sins and crimes.

A lot of people are raised Catholic but don't follow the faith into adulthood. Some become Catholic later in life (like me)

But your assertion that Hitler killed and used the Catholic Church as justification is dead wrong.

Hitler killed many Catholic Priests as well.

Hitler was NOT a practicing Catholic at the time of his terror reign.

Now, to be honest, that does not mean he was an atheist either, he could have been agnostic, (most likely)

False information here.

Hitler's father was a Catholic, but not a practicing one. (Hitler's father never went to church) Hitler's mother was a practicing Catholic.

So the whole comment about Hitler's mother being a Jew is just wrong.

Hitler realized early on that the average German was nominally Christian, so he would make generalized comments about 'god' but he definately wasn't a believer in standard christian doctrine (God, the Trinity, Virgin birth, Jesus fully man and fully God, Death and 3 days later Ressurrection to pay for our sins, Salvation is through Jesus, and that Jesus will return to judge the living and the dead...crash course in basic Christian doctrine) hence he wasn't a christian.

This is detailed in his actual comments

"We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany"

Many Nazis left the church publicly, but it is true Hitler never formally renouced the church....however he was 'playing' them along so they would be more pliable to his needs.

Hitler did regard Christianity as the foundation of basic European moral codes...but then there are a ton of people of many religions who will state that.

Joseph Goebbels notes in a diary entry in 1939: "The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay." Albert Speer reports a similar statement: “You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness

Hitler, in for the purpose of better controlling the masses and getting them more feverently devoted to his cause did create his own brand of Christianity, where he claimed only HE knew the true message of Jesus, and that Jesus's message had been corrupted. This was basically Christianity with all the details submerged and no mention of anything Hitler disagreed with. It was just a general glossing over where any study of detail showed it to be self-conflicting. It put foward Jesus as an anti-jew fighter. For example, Hitler made a lot of the story of Jesus driving moneylenders from the Temple. However in Hitler's version, Jesus was driving Jews from the 'House of God' because Jews just used religion to further their business.