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I don't recall ever signing my name to this so-called "social contract." Can I claim identity theft?

My government keeps billing me for all these services I never ordered, like crummy public schools and military wars in other countries. So far I'm in the hole for over $35,000! (My share of the $10.4 trillion national debt.) How can I get this matter straightened out and get a refund on all these unwanted services people keep ordering for me?

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My government keeps billing me for all these services I never ordered, like crummy public schools and military wars in other countries. So far I'm in the hole for over $35,000! (My share of the $10.4 trillion national debt.) How can I get this matter straightened out and get a refund on all these unwanted services people keep ordering for me?

To SK: you're missing a third possibility, namely that all those services you list can be (and often are) provided by private companies in a competitive market and paid for voluntarily by those desiring such services.

To all: the purpose of my asking this question is to stimulate some thought on the concept of the "social contract." What limits, if any, does society have in the demands it can make of its citizens, all in the name of this social contract?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Do you have the 35, 000 dollars to pay down your so-called share? If you actually have that 35, 000 dollars, your government already borrowed it, which is how, in part, it got in debt --- by borrowing that money from you. So you don't owe it to the goverment, the government owes it to you.

    That's the trouble with "governments of, for and by the people." It becomes confusing as to whom owes what to whom. But if you own government bonds or T-Bills, then they owe you money. You do not owe them money.

    As to your complaint about Rousseau's alleged "social contract", which you did not sign:- You are confusing a legal contract, which requires signatures to enforce, with a social contract, which does not require signatures. However, the American founders were not "big" on Rousseau and understood Constitutional Governments, rather than social contracts. Governments never "go broke".

    However when "the people" finally wake up and realize that their governments have acquired huge debts, by borrowing from themselves and others, they don't assume that a government's debt is a debt that they have to pay back, but, instead, that they are dealing with a bunch of fraud artists who have borrowed from them and are, now, telling them that they have to pay back money which they actually loaned to their governors. At that point, the government does not "go broke", but its money does go broke --- ie. becomes worthless.

    Americans should know such things. What happened to Confederate money even before "the confederate states of America" lost the American Civil War? Their money went broke. What about the money of the German Weimar Republic? Their money went broke too. It's called inflation. Most people think of "inflation" as rising prices, but it is actually a fall in the value of money issued and printed by fiscal, moral and monetary BANKRUPTS, who used to have a good credit rating until their citizens and others "woke up" to fraud on a National Scale.

    Nobody paid off the Tsar of Russia's railway bonds. After their revolution, the Soviets refused to pay off the Tsar's debts and actually executed the Tsar and his entire family. Nasty stuff. But it happens all the time --- not only in South American "bananna Republics", or even larger countries like Brazil, etc. etc.

    So you didn't sign a social contract. Your alleged "share" of the U.S. national debt is not your share. And you are not thinking straight --- along with 1 or 2 hundred million other Americans. Honest to garsh, Kiddo. Such massive debts never get "paid off". They are repudiated by means of either hyperinflations or actual revolutions.

    Gadzooks! Your American antecedents had an actual revolution over PENNY stamp and tea taxes. Yet modern Americans (and every other nationality) haven't revolted over billions of uselessly levied taxes and uselessly borrowed (from their own citizens) and wasted monies.

    Kevin

    Source(s): American and European history.
  • SK
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    You can leave civilization.

    There are a number of uninhabited islands under no jurisdiction, from the very large (Antarctica) to the very small (in the south Pacific for example). There are also unadministered or lightly administered areas, for example, in the north of Alaska where there is no 911 service and where you don't pay taxes, in rural, fertile, beautiful Kyrgyzstan where nomads are allowed free roaming and again are not taxed (but get no healthcare and have no schools or any other services), and in the Bedouin desert areas of North Africa where again most people are nomadic but nobody is required to be.

    That sounds facetious, but I'm serious. I think it was Oliver Wendell Holmes who once said "I like paying taxes; they're the price I pay for civilization." You can live in places with no roads, no airplanes, no motorized transportation, no sewage, no electricity, no military protection, no emergency rescue, no schools, no subsidized agriculture, no federally-funded scientific research, no public healthcare, no policemen, no taxes, no government, and no laws. That's life without the social contract, and if that's what you're looking for, it does exist. Some people actively seek it out. So I guess you move to Kyrgyzstan or Nunavut.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    Like the rusted nails thing. I believe he has been a victim of troll ID theft, because Deke was like level 5 a couple of weeks ago. I know how this troll did it, too. He put a space before he put Deke so he could use that name. Same thing happened in Orson Scott Card's science fiction nove "Ender's Game". Nirvana makes me feel like jamming on my guitar.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Identity theft? Your social identity was bought and sold at birth.

    That's just the bodily mortgage payments required to keep yourself. Your skin owns you while on this Earth. Luckily, it's only a temporary predicament.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Be part of the decision maker of the government and change the rules.

  • *RED*
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    ...my social contract is my voting privilege...

    ...i didn't vote for george w. bush...

    ...so for eight years i suffered along with this great country...

    ...now, with bush out his followers are screaming and crying about debt, and war...

    ...but, i voted for OBAMA and im still a confident and responsible individual...

    ...hey, after eight years of (bush) bad news it will be easy to recognize good news...

    ...did you exercise your voting privilege (social contract)...

  • 1 decade ago

    you are liable for something that you don't remember but happened

    You sign that contract the second you were born

  • 1 decade ago

    Don't believe the hype. You're not as free as you wish you were.

  • 1 decade ago

    You move to another country and give up your citizenship.

  • Proto
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    On the bright side, there's free porn.

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