Do you think Jesus was Wrong?

ONE CHURCH - Is there to be only one Church or many? According to Scripture, Christ wanted us to be one (John 17:22-23). We are all as a Church to be of one mind and to think the same (Philippians 2:2; Romans 15:5). There is only to be one "faith" (Ephesians 4:3-6), not many. For the Church is Christ's Body and Christ only had one Body, not many. Also, since the Church is Christ's Bride (Ephesians 5:29), can Christ be married to more than one wife (essentially a spiritual form of the the sin of polygamy)? No, Christ can only have one wife (i.e., one Church, not many).

Every Christian believes that Jesus Christ established and sustains a community of faith, hope and love for all believers. This community we call His Church. The Church that Christ founded is the Catholic Church in 33AD which has a formal earthly structure established by Christ and which continues under His authority and protection.

Jesus did three things that established the framework of His Church. First, He chose humans to carry out His work. He appointed Peter to be the visible head of the Church. Jesus said to Peter, "You are Rock and on this rock I will build my Church." (Matthew 16: 18) Jesus said "build," as in to create a structure. Jesus built His structure on specifically chosen human beings Peter and the apostles.

Second, Jesus gave Peter and the apostles the power and authority to carry out His work. "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven."(Matthew 16:19; 18:18) "Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven, whose sins you retain, they are retained."(John 20:23)

Third, Jesus gave Peter and the apostles commands as to what that work should be. At the last supper, He commanded, "Do this in memory of Me." (Luke 22:19) He commanded them to "Make disciples of all nations" (Matthew 28:19), and to "Go into the whole world and proclaim the Gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15)

The Catholic Church is the only church that can claim to have been founded by Christ personally. Every other church traces its lineage back to a mere human person such as Martin Luther or John Wesley. The Catholic Church can trace its lineage back to Jesus Christ who appointed St. Peter as the first pope. This line of popes has continued unbroken for almost 2,000 years.

God rules, instructs and sanctifies His people through His Church. Under her teaching office, the Catholic Church preserves the Word of God. She is the custodian, keeper, dispenser and interpreter of teachings of Christ. And she accomplishes this under the protection of the Holy Spirit.

FOUR MARKS OF THE TRUE CHURCH

If we wish to locate the Church founded by Jesus, we need to locate the one that has the four chief marks or qualities of his Church. The Church we seek must be one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.

The Church Is One (Rom. 12:5, 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:13, CCC 813–822)

Jesus established only one Church, not a collection of differing churches (Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, and so on). The Bible says the Church is the bride of Christ (Eph. 5:23–32). Jesus can have but one spouse, and his spouse is the Catholic Church.

His Church also teaches just one set of doctrines, which must be the same as those taught by the apostles (Jude 3). This is the unity of belief to which Scripture calls us (Phil. 1:27, 2:2).

Although some Catholics dissent from officially-taught doctrines, the Church’s official teachers—the pope and the bishops united with him—have never changed any doctrine. Over the centuries, as doctrines are examined more fully, the Church comes to understand them more deeply (John 16:12–13), but it never understands them to mean the opposite of what they once meant.

The Church Is Holy (Eph. 5:25–27, Rev. 19:7–8, CCC 823–829)

By his grace Jesus makes the Church holy, just as he is holy. This doesn’t mean that each member is always holy. Jesus said there would be both good and bad members in the Church (John 6:70), and not all the members would go to heaven (Matt. 7:21–23).

But the Church itself is holy because it is the source of holiness and is the guardian of the special means of grace Jesus established, the sacraments (cf. Eph. 5:26).

The Church Is Catholic (Matt. 28:19–20, Rev. 5:9–10, CCC 830–856)

Jesus’ Church is called catholic ("universal" in Greek) because it is his gift to all people. He told his apostles to go throughout the world and make disciples of "all nations" (Matt. 28:19–20).

For 2,000 years the Catholic Church has carried out this mission, preaching the good news that Christ died for all men and that he wants all of us to be members of his universal family (Gal. 3:28).

Over 38,000 Sects "Scattered" Outside The One Church Founded By Christ

There Was Only ONE Church Founded By Christ

AND HIS CHURCH STILL LIVES TODAY!!

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The extremes that anti Catholics go through to convince them selves there correct and were not is at times funny. Rev Einstein shows his ignorance on the term Rock as true in the greek language of 200 yrs before Christ there was a difference between words used to describe a rock from a stone but by Christ time the common word was Kephas and it meant only Rock with no specific size. So being as there is no where in the Gospels where it says Jesus is pointing to him self and he appears to be talking directly to Peter which is Kephas in the greek only means a Rock whether large or small is just plain twisting of the Gospel words by Rev einstein. Also they like to point out Peter is called Satan showing Peters human faults but Christ never takes back one word of empowerment he placed on Peter.Also they also totally ignore Christ command at the end of Johns Gospel where 3 times Christ tells Peter to tend his Sheep.They ignore much of what Christ taught and commanded done as there ignorance has created a blindness to the truth.

ok off the suitable of my head - the city of Nazareth did not actually exist till 3 hundred advert whilst it became created to service the religious pilgrims who stored exhibiting up close to ?????????? (Caesarea) searching for it... there became no Synagogue there - on the time of Jesus there became not something greater interior the actual area the place it became than an outdated properly and a small farm of between 10 and 20 persons. The archaeology of the area became actually subsidized with the aid of sever church homes - so which you will not blame atheists for looking the info don't greater healthful the Gospel. There even have been no cliffs or hills interior of reach that area for them to throw Jesus down from (that's interior the path of a valley) even whilst it did exist, so Luke 4:29 is notably for sure a faux or fictionalized anecdote.

Matthew 16: 18 "Thou art Peter"... As St. Peter, by divine revelation, here made a solemn profession of his faith of the divinity of Christ; so in recompense of this faith and profession, our Lord here declares to him the dignity to which he is pleased to raise him: viz., that he to whom he had already given the name of Peter, signifying a rock, St. John 1. 42, should be a rock indeed, of invincible strength, for the support of the building of the church; in which building he should be, next to Christ himself, the chief foundation stone, in quality of chief pastor, ruler, and governor; and should have accordingly all fulness of ecclesiastical power, signified by the keys of the kingdom of heaven.

18 "Upon this rock"... The words of Christ to Peter, spoken in the vulgar language of the Jews which our Lord made use of, were the same as if he had said in English, Thou art a Rock, and upon this rock I will build my church. So that, by the plain course of the words, Peter is here declared to be the rock, upon which the church was to be built: Christ himself being both the principal foundation and founder of the same. Where also note, that Christ, by building his house, that is, his church, upon a rock, has thereby secured it against all storms and floods, like the wise builder, St. Matt. 7. 24, 25.

18 "The gates of hell"... That is, the powers of darkness, and whatever Satan can do, either by himself, or his agents. For as the church is here likened to a house, or fortress, built on a rock; so the adverse powers are likened to a contrary house or fortress, the gates of which, that is, the whole strength, and all the efforts it can make, will never be able to prevail over the city or church of Christ. By this promise we are fully assured, that neither idolatry, heresy, nor any pernicious error whatsoever shall at any time prevail over the church of Christ.

19 "Loose upon earth"... The loosing the bands of temporal punishments due to sins, is called an indulgence; the power of which is here granted.

Comments: This is it, the catholic interpretations since day one.

There are so many BRAND NEW/JOHNNY CAME LATE interpretations flooding and floating around and it is ALL yours; we Catholics has nothing to do with it.

What he is really saying (and in my opinion you are right) is that upon the rock of revelation I will build my church. It is symbolic. He probabbly pointed to a common or known rock, and they knew exactly what he meant. The church will only survive by continuous revelation from above. He established one church and that has aposticized.

3 ¶ Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

We need a complete restoration.

No, Jesus was correct.

The church He was talking about was not made of bricks. The church is His saved people.

Peter went out and spread the Good News (the gosple) and that in turn

got the people who heard to accept Jesus as their savior. What Jesus taught is what Peter taught and as more people believed, the church grew.

'My Church ' could mean 'my belief, a faith' and 'not many Church's' could mean 'other gods' and the word 'church' does not literally mean brick & mortar.

The first Church is the Universal Church which became the Catholic Church: in the literal sense.

Jesus is The Rock is was and will always be.

This is the kind of scripture that causes so many fractions and tension because it can be interpreted so many ways.

as part of a catholic family, its not "my church" that is in question but the sayings of what is the ROCK that was what jesus was refering to.

it is very clear that Peter was not the ROCK of the church! i asked this question a couple weeks back too, and i gave some examples of how the ROCk is Revelation, NOT a person. although peter is called a small stone in this context and jesus is called a Rock too.

Peter was still called SATAN at the time of the crucifixioin drawing near. it is the will of God jesus said that i must die but Peter listening to satan spoke the will of satan in argument.

another person clearly answered a question and said it was James and James that were the First Leaders of the church, i did not know about Both James leading the church! so i learned another thing.

if this is true. the first church was in jerusalem, before all the apostles were scattered abroad and started 7 other churches, one of which is called satan (after the order of the nicolatians).

so, the book of revelation states

Jesus was never wrong! just misunderstood even by his own disciples even up to the day of the resurrection.

No, he wasn't wrong. Some people make him a liar when they say the Church he founded no longer exists.

The Church is also mentioned in Revelation and it is noted as the Bride of Christ.

No Jesus meant the entire Christian Church all believers.

We must count our blessings Catholic@Heart. I too was once deceived by these marauders who misquote Scriptures to attack the Church founded by Christ.

Anybody can look at the Catechism of the Catholic Church and see these teachings are sound with Biblical & early church father references. Our beliefs are an open book.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/

Often they are repeating the same dogmas their leaders were taught and taught them. They sound reasonable until they do the homework. look at what the early Church fathers really said, see the martyrs that stood against the Romans, and later when Christianity was legal, certain Christians who stood against the Emperors would be exiled. St John of Damascus had his hand cut off by an Emperor because of the action of a false witness. Miraculously the hand was reattached and the Emperor believed him then.

This Catholic faith is a gift we have in this day and age. Critics want the Sacraments written in the Bible. Why? At the time the Romans and Jews at various times were trying to kill them. Why give them more evidence in writing on what to be on the lookout for? The traditions were passed by apostolic authority, not by writing. The Bible was not intended to be a how to manual. The gospels are testimonies of men meant to show that Jesus is the Savior = God.

There are many people here that say they base their faith on their Bible and if it's not in there forget it. (Scripture Alone.) Most Christian Bibles are missing important books and it would be good for them to find out who took them out of their Bibles and why.

The early Church leaders determined the accurate books of the New Testament and added the Septuagint or the Old Testament Scriptures Jesus used and the early Church Fathers used. After the reformation, about 200 years ago, some Protestant groups took out books to match the ones that the Jews removed. Jews took them out because early Christians were using them to convert Jews to Christianity. I should think Catholics could use those missing books to convert non Catholic Christians also.

They are:

• Prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45)

• Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7)

• Intercession of saints in heaven (2 Maccabees 15:14)

• Intercession of angels (Tobit 12:12-15)

Jews really didn't like this one, but why would reformers take this out by following the Jews?

Wisdom 2:12-20 Let us beset the just one, because he is obnoxious to us; he sets himself against our doings, Reproaches us for transgressions of the law and charges us with violations of our training. He professes to have knowledge of God and styles himself a child of the LORD. To us he is the censure of our thoughts; merely to see him is a hardship for us, Because his life is not like other men's, and different are his ways. He judges us debased; he holds aloof from our paths as from things impure. He calls blest the destiny of the just and boasts that God is his Father. Let us see whether his words be true; let us find out what will happen to him. For if the just one be the son of God, he will defend him and deliver him from the hand of his foes. With revilement and torture let us put him to the test that we may have proof of his gentleness and try his patience. Let us condemn him to a shameful death; for according to his own words, God will take care of him."

Catholic Heart we have to forgive and pray for those who state lies about Catholics and do not practice the true faith in these forums. You see their leaders took books out of their Bible, introduced human traditions into their Churches that Jesus never intended and so they are not playing with a full Bible.

This dvd and the following pdf prove this historical fact with pictures of a King James 1611 Bible with a calendar of saints and all the books.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k0UV2Zi5X0

http://www.brantpitre.com/documents/printable_outl...