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Need arguments against Global Warming, and arguments against those points?
My physics class is doing a Global Warming debate. I am on the man-made side, and I am a negator, so I am supposed to research the points the other team (the all-natural side) will make, and find arguments against them.
Can someone list for me some points against man-made global warming, and some points i can use to counteract their reasoning?
Links would be nice too :)
Please no "None, because Global Warming isn't real/is all natural" Please. Comments like that are a waste of space.
8 Answers
- bucket22Lv 51 decade agoFavorite Answer
A good site for this:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/
A nearly comprehensive list of any contrarian argument ever made and a clear refutation of each, with great links to the peer-reviewed scientific literature:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php
The last point is important. Arguments opposing global warming science doesn't have backing from the body of climate science. Cite studies when you can.
Another reference on this topic:
http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics
EDIT
Kepi actually provides a good exercise. A scientific refutation to various odd claims:
1) http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-sto...
2) http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-prediction...
4) http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-models.htm
5) http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-...
7) http://www.skepticalscience.com/himalayan-glaciers...
3) & 6) I don't think those in your physics class will be putting forth conspiracy theories. At any rate, any claims that global warming was invented by Al Gore can be refuted with the scientific consensus:
Scientific academies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on...
Peer-reviewed studies:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/306/5702/168...
Individual scientists:
- 1 decade ago
Sucks for you. That's like being on the "He exists" side of a Santa Claus debate.
1)There's no real evidence for it. Temps are declining or staying the same globally.
2)There is no proven link between Co2 and warming. Co2 levels were higher in the 70's, and scientists were afraid of global cooling.
3)Research McCarthyism. It's eerie how similar these two events are. McCarthyism was basically one man (McCarthy) is the 50's who decided he needed more power and fame. He started randomly accusing government officials of being communists. He also started ousting regular private citizens. Jobs and lives were ruined by his scare tactics, much like today.
4)As of now, no climate predictions have been even close to right. Hansen's original model was over 300% wrong.
5)Co2 (even if it could be proven to have the slightest effect on climate), makes up .028% of all greenhouse gases. Humans contribute 4% of that total a year (The other 96 coming from volcanic activity and the sun).
6)The idea of the so called "founders" of AGW (Gore and Hansen) both making millions off their "humanitarian" effort (through movies, books, and carbon credits) should alert even the average minded to the scam right away.
7)One of the biggest "catastrophes" that will comes with AGW is the melting of glaciers and the polar ice caps. Well, glaciers aren't melting. And unless someone can tell me how increased temps in New York (just an example. Any large city would do. The increase in massed human population makes the city much hotter than the sounding areas) affect a glacier in Alaska, the theory behind the mechanics of AGW are wrong. Besides that though, Greenland isn't melting, Antarctica is gaining ice mass (the video that alarmist always show is from the 3% that's melting. The other 97% is gaining way more than that), and most glaciers are fine.
Here's an experiment. Put some ice cubes in a cup of water and mark the high point. Come back in a few hours. The water height will be the same or lower. So how would Antarctica melting mean sea levels rise? Beats me. Alarmists understand it though- same way they understand huge booms in polar bear populations means they are dieing out. And Greenland? It's on land, so the experiment doesn't apply. In the 800's though, Greenland supported farming! The sea levels were fine at that point, even though there was practically no ice on it.
That help?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
The other planets in our solar system have polar caps melting faster than earth's. The polar bear population is booming. Throughout history it is painfully clear that CO2 levels rise AFTER heat rises and NOT the other way around. 1998 is the hottest year recorded (beside the time of the dinosaurs) and hasn't gotten any hotter than that for a decade. The farther back in history you go the more this heat is to be suspected as a part of a solar cycle. The Sun if you haven't noticed is behaving a lot different that usual, solar spots and flares like never seen before (unless you believe ancient history).
If anyone says it's hottest it's been for a million years, you should remind them that a million years is completely insignificant in our records.
This man made stuff is politically motivated by proponents of the carbon tax which requires an agency with world wide influence to enforce.
I just saw "Kepi"s answer and HE IS AWESOME, more people like him should be out there!
- 5 years ago
The earth was warming slightly. That ended in 1998 and there has been no further increase. It was not AGW. It was natural, and yes, it's stopped. So what's the big deal? The term 'global warming' is understood to refer to manmade global warming in today's lingo. It's manmade warming that has a few lefty scam artists supposedly worried while making billions of dollars. The myth of AGW will stick around until it's no longer needed and then will fade away. The alarmists will replace it with something else that benefits their agenda.
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- 1 decade ago
I see a nice list forming. But really, without discussing the physics behind a lab scale (reproducible) experiment and contrasting that to collected empirical evidence, id say your up against the likes of creation vs science. People are pretty set in their ways on this one.
But do check out the link, i think i'll interlibrary loan it too just for a good read. One of the key science based arguments against human affects of climate is that cloud temperature forcing is often overlooked in future predicting models.
EDIT: I found the name I'm looking for, R. Lindzen. I put up a link to his most recent opinion. As you can see, a science approach without all the falsification of data like volcano CO2 or repeatedly citing a failing climate model from 1988.
Source(s): http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?t... http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen/230_Taking... - 1 decade ago
ICE AGE
Farming penguins - the new chicken
Plan for the floods - how buy future beach front property.
Floods in the Sahara - new fertile farm land brings an end to famine.
Buy a boat tie it a tree - fish the flooded valleys of kentucky
- 1 decade ago
Here's some good reading on the subject:
- BaccheusLv 71 decade ago
Here is what you asked for. These give you the uneducated myths and the real scientific discussion.
Source(s): http://greenhome.huddler.com/wiki/global-warming-m... http://caag.state.ca.us/globalwarming/contrarians.... http://www.climatesolutions.org/index.php?s=myths