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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 1 decade ago

Christians: Did you know that scripture can not contradict other scripture?

I've bee doing a little research about the prophecies about the messiah, and I wondered why the Jews did not accept him. There are many reasons that make plenty of sense, but let me know what you think of these.

1. The first thing I have been wondering, Jesus was the sacrifcial lamb right? The Torah states that human sacrifices are an abhorrent things to G-d... In Deuteronomy 12:30-31, God calls Human sacrifice something that He hates, and an abomination to Him. G-d is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Would He have changed His mind? In Jeremiah 19:4-6, God tells us that Human sacrifice is so horrible a concept to Him, that it did not even come into His mind to demand it from His creation. We see the same thing in Psalm 106:37-38, and in Ezekiel 16:20. This means that God would not accept Jesus's death on the cross as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. The very idea of that God would accept a human sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins is UnBiblical.

2. Blood sacrifice? If one believed that a blood sacrifice was necessary before God would forgive you, then even one example where God forgave without a blood sacrifice would prove that this idea is UnBiblical. There are many such examples, but the most interesting is found in the Book of Leviticus. The reason this is so interesting is that it comes right in the middle of the discussion of sin sacrifices, which is found in the first chapters. In Leviticus 5:11-13. One can also see that one does not need a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins in the Book of Jonah 3:10. There, the Bible simply states that God saw the works of the people of Ninevah. Specifically it says that the works God saw were that they stopped doing evil, and so God forgave them. There are plenty of other examples, and the idea that one needs a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins is UnBiblical

3. The Bible is clear, and it is consistent. One person cannot die for the sins of another. This means that the guilt from the sins committed by one person cannot be wiped out by the punishment given to another person. First, in Exodus 32:30-35, Moses asks God to punish him for the sin of the Golden Calf, committed by the people. God tells Moses that the person who committed the sin is the person who must receive the punishment. Then, in Deuteronomy 24:16, God simply states this as a basic principle, "Every man shall be put to death for his own sins." This concept is repeated in the Prophets, in Ezekiel 18 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die... the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

4.The Jewish idea of God is that God is One and Indivisible. We cannot divide God up into separate parts, where each part of God is UnEqual to each of the other parts, but somehow they are one and the same. The Hebrew Scriptures describes God as an absolute One, but the Christian's New Testament describes the Christian idea of God as divisible into three parts called a trinity. In the Christian's New Testament, Jesus at one point claims to have different knowledge than other parts of the Christian Trinity. For example, Matthew 24:36 or Mark 13:32. In another verse, Jesus does not have the same power as other parts of the Christian Trinity, for example, Luke 23:34. And in Matthew 26:42, Jesus's will is not the same as the will of the Father. Indeed, Jesus often contrasted himself with the Father, for example, in John 14:28, or Luke 18:19. Furthermore, Jesus supposedly said that the punishment for blaspheming against one part of the Trinity is not the same punishment for blaspheming against another part of the Trinity. In the Hebrew Scriptures, however, God is One, as we read in Deuteronomy 6:4, as well as in Isaiah 44:6, where God tells us, "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." When Isaiah tells us that God said, "I am the first," it means that God has no father. When Isaiah tells us that God said, "I am the last," it means that God has no literal son. And when Isaiah tells us that God said, "Besides me there is no God," it means that God does not share being God with any other god, or demi-god, or semi-god, or persons, and there is no trinity. 5. It is the hallmark of pagan, idolatrous faiths, to confuse God with human beings, either that God becomes human, or that humans become God. In Biblical history, one sees this confusion with Pharaoh, and with Haman (boo, hiss!), as well as with Antiochus, the Assyrian King against whom the Maccabbees rebelled. Furthermore, as one example, in Hosea 11:9 God tell us, "For I am God and not a man."

I'm a bit confused, everything I have known all my life has been a lie. The ony prophcies that that Jesus did not fullfill was the ones we claim he will do in the second coming. NO WHERE in the Torah (Law), or the Tanach (OT) claims he will come twice. He will do everything he is supposed to in the first time he comes. He will not be G-d. He will n

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I AM NOT AN ATHEIST

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  • 1 decade ago
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    I read all of that, and it is really interesting. It was one of the few long ones I've actually read all the way through. :)

    I understand that you want scriptures in the Tanach that will disapprove of what you just wrote, but there isn't any that I know of. The Tanach and the NT is not compatible with each other, as you could tell with all the people who were quoting it.

    I'm not going to tell you what to do, or what to believe, it is souley up to you. But I would encourage that you continue to look up these things, and remember to pray as well.

    I think it is great that you look things up for yourself. Remember that fo whatever people say, it needs to be supported by scripture (NOT contradicting each other, if somethings does, it is the first sign something is wrong, but you probably already know that)

    You must be having a crisis of faith right now. It is a time when you are most vulnerable. You can either give up your faith all together, or use this to grow closer to G-d by searching for the answers within the Word. The hidden secrets of G-d's Word. Don't look for the easy way out. Just keep doing what your doing, and continue to always ask questions :)

  • 5 years ago

    I'm the old testament, whenever the sufferings of Christ are mentioned, the next scripture is always his glory. Even I'm the prophecy on the stars in the heavens, the glory of Christ Jesus follows his sufferings. The time period in between was not even revealed to the angels. At the transfiguration of Jesus, what was shown to Jesus and his apostle Peter and John was his glory with the new heaven and earth and Moses and Elijah already resurrected. The scriptures was silent about the period of the Body of Christ. The only proof given was the statue that Nebuchadnezzar dreamed and it tells us about the mixture of iron which is the roman empire and clay which is Islamic empire. Since the dreamer was standing from the feet of the statue, there's no reference as to the time period between the legs and the feet and the toes. The time period would be 6 for human times 11 for confusion times 40 for trial period of the Times of the Gentiles dominion over the Temple mount. Even to Jesus, the blessings to the Gentiles was not given. But to Jesus was shown the destruction of the Temple before his 2nd coming. That destruction is not the 70 AD Temple destruction but the April 24, 2016AD future during the war of Armageddon.

  • Marc L
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Other things you need to consider:

    Nowhere in the Old Testament is the concept of an eternal punishment/reward presented. Man is dealt with in this lifetime for his sins, or rewarded for his good behavior-not in the afterlife.

    Satan in the Old Testament is actually an angel who works FOR the god of the Old Testament. His job is as an accuser. In Jewish belief, he is not a fallen angel, nor is he the "prince of this world".

    God initially gave the Israelites the Law as a binding covenant FOREVER. Supposedly, however, the New Testament overthrows that (or, most of it). If something is forever, how can it be replaced?

  • 1 decade ago

    If a non Christian may gatecrash... :)

    You're coming up against the real differences between the two faiths. I hate to think that you really feel that all you've believed 'is a lie'. It's just a different theology :)

    Judaism says that all faiths are valid for those that follow them - we are all equally G-d's children. So yes, of course it's disconcerting when you research Judaism and find something that conflicts with your lifetime beliefs. But what really counts is being a decent, compassionate, fair person - and while I don't know you, you do come across as that :)

    Hope that helps a tiny bit :)

    Source(s): - to clarify for another answerer: The OT is not a Jewish text - never was. It was produced by the Church and is an adapation OF the Jewish Tanakh. There are serious mistranslations in the OT. No Jews anywhere in the world read nor study the OT. Think about it: why would Judaism refer to its OWN texts as 'old'???!
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  • 1 decade ago

    You know, that was really well written and it seems to be well researched too. I doubt too many people will read it all the way through. Most people really don't.

    Personally, I think both Christianity AND Judaism is a bunch of bunk, but I agree that they don't sync up well. It's like trying to run the latest version of Windows on one of those old computers from the '80's.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I would like to answer all your questions but do not have all The room to do so. I would suggest to get a Book on Biblical hermeneutics A comprehensive introduction to interpreting scripture . By Bruce Corly , Steve w. Lemke and Grant l. Love joy. the lies you have been taught are just that lies and if you want some real answers go to sacred text .com . it will give you some insight to the state man is truly in.

    Source(s): hope it helps. People who follow the bible are not in power or running things , we are slaves to the wicked
  • 1 decade ago

    Jesus fulfilled 500 prophecies

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I just love it when the delusionals argue among themselves.

    It's especially amusing to see the Jewish proponent making all her arguments using the old testament (which is, after all, their book)...while the christian proponent uses new testament verses to counter all the arguments.

    And still the christian proponent doesn't see how much the old testament contradicts the christian theology. Absolutely hilarious!

    Thanks for the chuckle. You go, girl -- don't let those christians steal your holy book and say they "fulfilled" it!

    Peace.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." (Leviticus 17:11)

    "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." (Hebrews 9:22)

    The instance of Lev. 5:11-13 is that of a trespass-offering ("asham"), not a sin-offering ("chattath").

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The only real contradiction that has not been refuted reasonably (to my knowledge), which I have come across in my research, is the one concerning the demise of Judas. All the contradictions that I have read about are all from someones incorrect interpretation of scripture.

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