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So where is this elusive proof that abiogenesis is impossible?
In answering to this question ( http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsmuW... ) at least two people claim abiogenesis was disproven. Not unlikely - they claim it was proven to be impossible.
Where is this mysterious proof? May we see it?
Oh, and if you're about to cite Pasteur or a "law of biogenesis" - the spontaneous generation that Pasteur and others disproved was the idea that life forms such as mice, maggots, and bacteria can appear fully formed. They disproved a form of creationism. There is no law of biogenesis saying that very primitive life cannot form from increasingly complex molecules.
Wilco: Conditions today are different from conditions in the past in two important ways: First, there was little or no molecular oxygen in the atmosphere or oceans when life first appeared. Free oxygen is reactive and would likely have interfered with the formation of complex organic molecules. More importantly, there was no life around before life appeared. The life that is around today would scavenge and eat any complex molecules before they could turn into anything approaching new life.
Booth: Let's hear those details. Or at least a specific link.
The "proof" is still missing.
Hugo: I expect to see bull appear whenever I talk to creationists.
kdanley: just asserting something does not constitute proof.
And oxygen is not always molecular.
Fail at both chemistry and logic.
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
i like the idea above "oxygen was always present"
yeah, wildly oxidising anything nearby, so that free O2 molecules were conveniently contained in oxidation products, such as water.
quite clearly, the oxygen in the free form, with its 21 percent in recent atmosphere is a product of first plants /ok - algae/ while the anaerobe life was thriving before them.
sorry mate i dont think you will get ANY serious answer from creationists.
they are stuck with their "it's so incredibly complicated and i dont get it, so it must be God's deed" pseudologic.
oh my, 4000 years for cheese to make a cow :) last time it took half of kenozoikum (30 millions years) to form the bovids from first hoofed animals.
4000 years were not enough to embed recognition by scent or whatever into human brain - we still recognize our supposed relatives just with respect to frequency of our interaction (so basically our brains consider our fellow soldiers to be brothers)
- 1 decade ago
You will never get a sensible answer from creationists.
Ironically the arguments they put against abiogenesis can normally be applied to the creator deity. The only difference between abiogenesis and creationism is additional belief in magic.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
There is overwhelming evidence for it. Evidence and proof are not the same thing. There is proof for various components of abiogenesis, such as the ability for complex protiens and amino acids to form naturally, and research coninues to progress productively, in a very encouraging way.
- ?Lv 45 years ago
I merely desire to snigger after analyzing God Created's pathetic piece of crap answer... "not yet, they're nonetheless "engaged on it" in accordance to Dawkins" humorous how Dawkins did not say that.. Abiogenesis isn't even his field of diagnosis, moron. greater data on how christians make up each thing they say. besides the actuality that, it is "technically" precise that this is being labored on. They have not been waiting to teach it exceeded off yet, yet we are far adequate in to have shown that abiogenesis become certainly very obtainable on early Earth. this is plenty greater advantageous than the christians have. we've proved using somewhat some expirements, Miller-Urey being the main properly extensive-unfold, that organic tactics of the early Earth that have been unrelated to existence could desire to very actual take place and form amino acids. Seeing as amino acids are the construction blocks of existence, each thing merely snowballed into what we see right now. do not pay attention to those fool conspirators that declare the test to have been in "fake circumstances".
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- 1 decade ago
Whenever a scientist takes the valuable science that he has learned and mixes it with the pseudoscience that he has learned in church, he has just put his foot in his mouth.
Source(s): Humanist - Anonymous1 decade ago
"Why isn't new bacteria and simple life just spout out from rocks now then, huh? Huh? Yeah that's right, I didn't think so...that means abiogenesis is false"
- kdanleyLv 71 decade ago
Information-rich systems can only come from an intelligent sender. All living things are rich with information, but evolutionists claim that they arose from non-living matter.
No oxygen in the atmosphere or oceans? You are aware that water has oxygen in it, right? Was the ocean full of just hydrogen? I'd hate to be around during an electric storm.
Miller excluded oxygen from his little experiment because he knew it would oxidize whatever was in there.
I'm sorry, but you need to do some serious studying before you criticize creationism.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
It isn't impossible. It just doesn't fit in with their 'anthropic' and intellectual laziness.
Source(s): They are retards, what do you expect? - The Bald SatyrLv 51 decade ago
If you leave a piece of cheese in the rain for 4000 years do you expect to see a cow get made?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
inb4 "why isnt it happening now, everyday then?"
Source(s): bro, you dont have to tell me. I know that. Hence the "inb4", I'm saving you from a shitstorm of creationism