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Anonymous asked in TravelAfrica & Middle EastIsrael · 1 decade ago

What is a Zionist (please read full question)?

Why do the anti-Palestinian group keep defining Zionist in over simplified terms? They claim it means someone who believes Israel has the right to exist. But that is not the case. In fact, I think they over simplify it in order to maintain that those who do not agree with Zionism are Antisemitic. The fact is, Zionism is a lot more complex than that, and I wonder why they try to pull the wool over our eyes by trying to get us to believe otherwise. So, could someone please define Zionism for me, and tell me exactly what all that entails, in your own words please, because long drawn out cut and paste holds my attention for about 30 seconds tops. Thanks.

Update:

What about the land? Some Zionists here express the desire to have land which belongs to Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and a bit more than that, if I am not mistaken. What land do they think they are entitled too, do they expect to just have it handed over because they think it is theirs, or do they propose to go to war again? And do the majority of Zionist agree with this, or is this just the extreme extremists?

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    Zionism is the international Jewish political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine. The area was the Jewish Biblical homeland(residency, NOT ownership, an erroneous conclusion by Jewish terrorist groups, the Irgun(now Likud) in particular), called the Land of Israel (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra'el). Since the creation of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel.Zionism is largely based on the concept of historical ties and religious traditions linking the Jewish people together as Israelitesl, where the concept of Jewish nationhood first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE).To erroneously form a country based on this concept, the murderous Jewish terrorist group,Irgun(now Likud) spearheaded the killings of Palestinians and theft(NO ENUMERATION) of their land continuing to the present. Arabs(Ishmael) were there first and have ALWAYS been the MAJORITY.

    *According to Alexander Scholch, GERMAN JEW AND PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN, the population of Palestine in 1850 had about 350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims(Arabs), 11% were Christians and 4% Jews.Scholch, 1985, p. 503.

    Palestinian Demographics Link up to 1948

    http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm

    The Arabs of Canaan are the Arabs of Palestine. They were there AT LEAST EQUALLY as long as the Jews/Israelis, but they had a constant presence and a defined land. The Jews were nomadic and had NO land until what was taken from the Palestinians in 1948. Both Jews and Arabs have the same father, Abraham, whom although Semitic, possibly Hebrew, was not considered Jewish. Abraham, his parents, and his ancestry is from Babylon, which is, in fact, INSIDE the Arabian Peninsula, the origin of the Arab peoples.So he may very well have been Arab.

    Palestine is a name which has been widely used since Roman times to refer to the region that includes contemporary Israel and the Palestinian territories, parts of Jordan, and parts of Lebanon and Syria. In its narrow meaning, it refers to the area within the boundaries of the former British Mandate of Palestine (1920-1948) west of the Jordan River.

    Palestine can also refer to the Proposed Palestinian State.

    The name and the borders of Palestine have varied throughout history, though Palestine has certain natural boundaries that justify its historical individuality. Other terms that have been used to refer to all or part of this area include Arabistan, Canaan, Greater Israel, Greater Syria, the Holy Land, Iudaea Province, Israel, "Israel HaShlema", Kingdom of Israel, Kingdom of Jerusalem, Land of Israel, Levant, Retenu (Ancient Egyptian), Southern Syria, and Syria Palestina.

    Early archeological textual reference to the territory of Palestine is found in the Merneptah Stele, dated c. 1200 BCE, containing a recount of Egyptian king Merneptah's victories in the land of Canaan, mentioning place-names such as Gezer, Ashkelon and Yanoam, along with Israel, which is mentioned using a hieroglyphic determinative that indicates a nomad people, rather than a state.

    The promise that is the basis of the term "promised land" is contained in Genesis 15:18-21 of the Hebrew Bible:

    "On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abrham and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites."

    The verse is said to describe what are known as "Borders of the Land" (Gevulot Ha-aretz). In Jewish tradition these borders define the maximum extent of the land promised to the descendants of Abraham through his son Isaac(2nd born-the Jewish lineage and Ishmael the 1st born and the Arab lineage) and grandson Jacob.Even according to Jewish customs, the oldest son, which is Ishmael, is entitled to the father's inheritance, but because Sarah despised Ishmael, she wanted Isaac to get the inheritance and had Abraham exhile Ishmael. Neither is Ishmael illegitimate but the legal son of his SECOND wife Hagar-Genesis 16: "And Sarah Abraham's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abraham had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abraham to be his WIFE(my emphasis).

    The promise is made to Abraham and the descendants of his son Isaac, and Isaac's son Jacob, Abraham's grandson as they are all given promise that their descendants will be given a territory from the river of Egypt to the Euphrates river.No where does it say the Israelis/Jews OWNED the land, nor were they to take it from, and, kill the Palestinians. The Israelis/Jews were given a land ONLY to reside in as many Jews already had among the Palestinians.God clearly states whom the land belongs to-"the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." Of all these people, only the Palestinians whom are considered Canaanites, are still around. Except for Iran and Israel, Arabs own all of what was Canaan.

    It is Israel whom is illegally occupying the West Bank and Gaza strips, illegally building Jewish ONLY settlements and buffer zones from land stolen from murdered INNOCENT civilian Palestinians using machine guns and tanks.It is not the Palestinians cutting off power,water, food, medicines, and jobs-just HOW would YOU protect yourself from annhilation by occupiers if your government couldn't?

  • 1 decade ago

    Zionism is dead. The zionists from the first and second aliyah are true zionists. Do you know what it's like to be a doctor in europe and give everything up to go to Palestine and start up a Kibbutz for a future gov't?

    "What about the land? Some Zionists here express the desire to have land which belongs to Lebanon, Syria, Iraq,"

    This is a minority. Some arabs express the idea of taking over the west. They are the minority.

    Zionism basically means what is means a place where Jews can live without blood libels, pogroms and govern themselves (which is why America is not the answer). They looked at different places. Palestine had a very old Jewish population already (not suprised). So Palestine was given to the Jews and Hashemites.

  • 1 decade ago

    A Zionist, to be more precise, is somebody that believes Israel has the right to be a Jewish state.

    Beyond that, different Zionists can have a wide variety of positions.

    The desire to have land that now belongs to Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, etc, is not a position of most Zionists; in fact I haven't heard of it. Of course I haven't heard everything yet.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Zionism is a colonial movement which was born in the colonial era and it called for colonizing Palestine. This is why Israel is the last unsolved colonial conflict in the world. The world is proposing a 2 state solution to the conflict: one state for the native people of Palestine and one for the Israeli colonist but it is not working so far.

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  • 1 decade ago

    A Jewish or Christian Nazi in essence. The core of the Nazi creed is the idea that nationality is based on one single ethnic group which holds exclusive claim to a nation and seeks to oust all others. That is also the core of Zionism.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    A zionist is the political equivalent of a vicious attack dog.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    I don't think it's a matter of anti-Palestinian as much as Pro-Israel. I am Anti-Hamas, Anti-terrorism, Anti-teaching kids to hate...but neither I or any Jew I know is anti-Palestinian.

    Starting in the 1800s, Zionists were people who believed that the Jewish people should reestablish a sovereign state in the Land of Israel (AKA Zion).

    Logically, the term should have been extinct when the Jews got their land. The only reason there are still Zionists and Zionism is because there are still people who challenge the core belief of Zionism.

  • ha
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    zionism simply means support for the jewish state of israel. it's patriotism for israel. that's all.

    the fact that some people who are zionist also have other views does not change the definition of zionist. for example, i am a zionist and a vegetarian, but that doesn't mean that zionists are against eating meat.

    land issues have nothing to do with it. zionism means support for israel, but it doesn't say anything about specific borders. most zionists do not want to take over any land from syria or iraq.

    Source(s): anti-zionism IS anti-semitism. anti-zionism means you're against israel's existence. and without israel, the millions of jews there would have no place to go. if israel became the 23rd arab/muslim country, jews would be mistreated or killed, like they've been from the 22 existing arab/muslim countries. that's why calling for israel's destruction is indeed anti-semitism.
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Zionists are people who believe that a Jewish state must be built on the British-Mandate of Palestine.

    However many Orthodox Jews reject this concept and many others accepts it. all those who accepted this concept (Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheists etc..) are called Zionists.

    Antisemitic is a term that was created for Jewish and Judaism (not Zionists) who faced several discrimination.

    So Antisemitic and AntiZionisim are different.

  • 1 decade ago

    A ZIONIST is simply a person, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, atheist or other, who believes that the Jews, an ancient race of survivors with a history of persecution who are grossly overrepresented in their contributions to art, science, culture, and global society, have the right to a national homeland and protection from oppression and anti-Semitic violence within the modern borders of their ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judea.

    An ISLAMIST is a person who believes that all Muslim nations (58) should be united into a single Caliphate that would be able to threaten the non-Muslim world economically and militarily, and believes that medieval Islamic law or Shariah, which is a flagrant violation of every human right ever developed, should be the law of the world, and that non-Muslims should live under Islamic law as second class citizens.

  • 1 decade ago

    Zionism is a national liberation ideology that seeks as its ultimate goal an independent Jewish state in the Holy Land. It is not racist for an ethnic group to seek self determination, but it is racist however for people to refuse an ethnic group the right to self determination based on their race, which is what they are doing.

    Source(s): I love how people are so ignorant to the truth
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