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Why do some Christians make up the rules as they go along?
For clarity, I will include two definitions from the Merrian-Webster dictionary:
RELIGION
1 a: the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
CHRISTIANITY
1 : the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies
2 : conformity to the Christian religion
3 : the practice of Christianity
Now, here's my question. Sorry for the long story.
I was talking with someone at work, and she said that Christianity isn't a religion. I thought, "Oh great, we've got one of <those>. (closes eyes, shakes head)"
I said that yes, Christianity <is> a religion, not just a relationship with God. Anyone can have a relationship with God, even non-Christians. Therefore, a human-God relationsihp is an inadequate definition of Christianity. She said that no, Christianity is a lifestyle, not a religion. I said that if you look up "religion" and "Christianity" in the dictionary, you'll find that yes, Christianity is in fact a religion. Individuals have relationships with God, but the belief system of Christianity altogether is a religion. She said that that's "man's definition" and not God's definition. I thought, "Oh dear Lord, she's one of those loons."
She was saying that Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, etc, are different religions. I said that no, they're different sects within the same religion of Christianity. I went on to explain that Christianity has three major branches: Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, and each is somewhat different, but all are Christian. Within Orthodoxy there are more schisms, and within Protestantism there are many more schisms, and that all together, Christianity has over 40 thousand schisms or sects. And all of these are branches of the same tree.
She totally disagreed and said, "I respect your opinion."
Christians, this is not my opinion. I didn't make it up. It's not opinion, it's fact. I was not giving things any new kind of definitions, only sticking to the standard definitions of things. Religion is a system of belief, and Christianity is a religion. I mean, there's nothing different or weird about saying this. What's weird, actually what's frustrating, is when some Christians concoct up new definitions of things, like saying that Christianity is not a religion. They're making up new rules as they go along, and expect everyone else to believe it too.
Look, those folks who put words into dictionaries happen to be linguistic scholars. I'm not gonna argue with any linguistic scholar. If they say a word means one thing, then I'll accept it, and not play The Arrogant One and say, "Nuh-uh, no it doesn't." To change the definitions of things is to make up new rules as you go along. This causes confusion, and it's very frustrating.
Why do you do it????? Who said you can change the established rules????? Christianity is a religion, gulp it and accept it. What's so hard about that?
For those of y'all who do this, why???
Karen, the word "religion" is not at all a bad thing. Ask any Jew whether or not Judaism is a religion, and all of them will say that yes, it is. Why on Earth do the born-agains cringe from the word "religion?" There is nothing wrong with it. Religion is a gift from God, why spit on such a beautiful gift?
Cornerstone: I understand Christianity very well. For most of my life, I was a Christian. During those years, I spent time as a Catholic, and also as a Protestant. I was a born-againer who insisted that Christianity isn't a religion. I was also a teenager who had a lot to learn, changed my mind just a few years later, and have known better since. My colleague is over 60, so she's well old enough to recognize baloney when she sees it. Or so I thought. Sad.
C.C.♥: "Gulp it and accept it? Are you kidding me? I don't give a rat's rubber whose "opinion" this is."
Are <you> kidding <me>? I said it above, maybe you can't read. I didn't give any opinion, I was sticking with the standard definitions of "religion" and of "Christianity." Twist it all you want, but don't expect the rest of the world to take on your own personal definitions. When you speak to one another, you can refer to Christianity as Ralph, for all I care. Just don't expect the rest of the world to be as looney.
"You think you can just come in here, start blabbering a few statements off, and everyone who is a true believer of Jesus Christ is going to "convert" to Christianity the "religion"? Hardly!"
I'm not a Christian, and proselytizing induces vomiting. I'm not trying to convert anyone to any religion.
(cont...)
C.C.♥:
"Basically, religion is a "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon". In other words, it is a set of RULES"
Like the ten commandments? Of course religion is a set of spiritual beliefs with rules. What in God's green Earth is wrong with rules? If you have a beef with rules, take it up with Him. He's the one who made rules, not me.
......"you are intruding on a very personal and private virture that you have no business invading. Whatever is between my Lord Jesus and myself is exclusive and ours."
Intruding? Hardly. I don't give a rat's @ss about your personal relationship with anyone. If you didn't like this question, you didn't have to answer. If you don't like folks asking questions, then go to another site. Folks can ask whatever we want here. And yes, I have every business asking about this. Like I said, I can ask whatever the fukc I want.
Gulp it and accept it.
22 Answers
- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Call Him Jesus, and you are a christian - religion - christianity
Call Him Allah, and you are a moslem - religion - islam.
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And so forth......
sects, sub-sects and divisions, denominations, churches and mosques notwithstanding.
And yet some argue....
Pl accept my sympathy for having such a colleague...
- roccopaperielloLv 61 decade ago
ALL Christians (plus members of all other religions) make up the rules as they go along.
The entire argument is absurd.
As for being a so-called "true" Christian -- all people believe that THEIR brand of Christianity (or religion) is the "right" one.
Of course some are so arrogant to believe that their understanding and interpretation not only is the "right" one, but all other interpretations are not only incorrect but make "those others" NON-Christian or possibly even put the person in hell.
This argument about religion vs life style is just one more stupid distinction attempting to say "I am right" and "you are wrong."
The problems arise when so many people not only disagree on what the one "true" religion is, or what "true" Christianity" but when they act with ignorant and open bigotry towards others of different beliefs.
They say all kinds of things like "I love the sinner" or I "respect their beliefs" but in actual fact their actions belie this claim. By the very fact that they judge others as some kind of specific "sinner" based on an ignorant interpretation or an ignorant dogmatic position or an ignorant "revealed truth passage" instead of basing their moral judgments on an empirical assessment just proves their bigotry and their unjust declamations
- 1 decade ago
Like all corporate management strategies, you got to innovate to stay ahead.
Since there is no product to enhance nor are they allowed to change the contents of the bible, the only fashionable thing to do is to change the rules, or to re-interpret them. Sometimes, the people at the top understand the changes, but the people lower down the line mis-interpreted them.
Like for example, many religions do not like to be called religion, but how many can answer why? Because a religion sounds like a rigid system, whereas words like faith portrays sacrifice and un-questioning beliefs. But in the final count, IT IS still a religion.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Gulp it and accept it? Are you kidding me? I don't give a rat's rubber whose "opinion" this is. You think you can just come in here, start blabbering a few statements off, and everyone who is a true believer of Jesus Christ is going to "convert" to Christianity the "religion"? Hardly!
The scholars who wrote the dictionaries? What is so different about their knowledge and the prophets who wrote the Bible? These people were also linguistic scholars. They were not ordinary citizens. They were highly educated and very dedicated workers, staying indoors for months at a time, just working on scripture.
Here's what my dictionary says about "religion":
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
Basically, religion is a "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon". In other words, it is a set of RULES. Not only are the "sects" outrageous, the "religions" are as well. ALL OF THEM ARE MAN-MADE! Why would I follow anything in this world made by men? God Himself only accepts ONE religion (James 1:27). If it is acceptable to God, then it is to me. You may think you are trying to help with your question, but really you are intruding on a very personal and private virture that you have no business invading. Whatever is between my Lord Jesus and myself is exclusive and ours.
So much for "gulping it and accepting it, huh?"
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- al∞kemyLv 51 decade ago
Any rule has been made up somewhere along the line. Every last single word is coined and then blessed by being included in a dictionary.
- ?Lv 45 years ago
Yeah, that's the place we get the "Golden Rule". that is not rapidly reported interior the Bible as such, yet sufficient of the meaning is there that the rule of thumb basically for sure follows, in case you get my meaning. that is all approximately LOVE.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
First, I agree with your point that Christianity is a religion. I believe what is meant by saying that Christianity is not a religion is the idea that works are not involved. Perhaps in a sense they are correct because if one does not believe that someone has do something (e.g. works), then it isn't a religion; its a philosophical construct.
- old dudeLv 61 decade ago
They have been changing the "rules " and making up stories for 2,000 years, do you think they'll stop now ?
The sad fact is there is religion and there's the church doctrine and both are poles apart
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Religion is man's attempt to reach God.
Jesus is God's attempt to reach man.
Religion, being based in man's effort can save no one, since man is sinful by nature. We are saved by the grace of God alone offered through Jesus Christ. No one can earn their salvation since it is a free gift for those who believe in Jesus.
Regardless, I appreciate you disagreement with the semantics of use of the word "religion" vs "relationship". The point I think I am trying to make is salvation is through Christ alone.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Acts 4:11-12 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.
And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
- karen nLv 41 decade ago
That is why they are referred to as worldly religions in comparison to the truth. True christians follow the Bible exactly as it is written. That is why the truth is not popular as the Bible says that there is only one road to life. It also speaks of Satan being the ruler of this world which includes its "religions".
Source(s): Bible