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For Creationists and Darwinists alike . . .?
Have you seen "Did Darwin Kill God?" It's an extremely interesting documentary on the idea that God and evolution are not mutually exclusive beliefs. The host (Conor Cunningham) explores the history of evolution, early Christian views on the story of Genesis, the beginning of modern creationism, the beginning of modern Darwinism, etc. Cunningham (a believer in both evolution and Christianity), seeks to finally end the argument that if you believe in one, you cannot believe in the other.
If you've seen this documentary, I'd like to know what both sides think.
Do not quote the bible.
Do not ridicule others for their belief in God.
Please refrain from using the following statements in any form in your answer:
Goddidit.
God doesn't exist.
This is not a question about the existance (or non-existance) of God. I'd like to hear why you think the two ideas (God and evolution) are incompatable or not.
Allow me to be more clear.
I have always believed evolution and a belief in God are completely compatable. Mr. Cunningham's documentary simply clarified some of the historical and more modern points of the argument. He also points out that Creationists are not the only extremists in this argument. An equally radical lunitic fringe has arisen in the scientific community. They call themselves "Ultra-Darwinists".
And let me reiterate DO NOT QUOTE THE BIBLE.
I'm sorry, I got the term wrong. The term used is "Universal Darwinism" or "Universal Darwinist". These are people who not only believe in evolution, but they believe that the whole of existance can be explained by it. They say that thoughts, songs, words, fashion, etc. are passed from person to person "infecting" them. Like genes being passed from generation, to generation. They call them "memes".
Dr. Susan Blackmore is one of the proponents of this belief. She wrote a book on the subject called "The Meme Machine".
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- Mr.SamsaLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
The Pope has already acknowledged that the theory of evolution is correct. I'd consider him more of an authority on Christian doctrines than Mr. Cunningham. But, whatever works, I guess.
In any case, the theory of evolution can be compatible with a belief in God. Evolution only describes changes in organisms between successive generations. It does not suggest how the first organism developed, leaving room for some people to speculate that the first organisms were created by their favorite deity.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I've not seen it, but it sounds like rationalization at its finest.
There are a lot of people who try to mix the two together in a feeble attempt to maintain their delusions.
Reality gets a little too real for them and they rush to find a way that their particular deity can be compatible with it, at least in their mind. If it works well, then others use it.
It's nothing new.
It's expected.
Religious people do this with every breath, every single day of their lives, not only in every interaction with others to justify their ridiculous claims, but also in their own minds in order to maintain their delusional belief system.
There is nothing compatible between real science and creationism.
The world was not made in 7 days, a couple of thousand years ago. Science states that it was a few billion. The evidence support this. The two ideas are incompatible. They cannot both be right.
The bible says man was created in your god's image. First of all, which version of man? The current one? Cro-magnon man? Neanderthal man? The simple organisms which eventually became all of these?
If it means the current version, then you can wipe your a$$ with the pages of the bible, because the current version was something else entirely not too long ago.
I could go on for chapters, but it's pointless.
The religious version of creation and the scientific facts are completely and totally incompatible.
Any attempt to reconcile the two is simply pathetic rationalization BY DEFINITION...
Source(s): In psychology and logic, rationalization is the process of constructing a logical justification for a belief, decision, action or lack thereof that was originally arrived at through a different mental process. It is a defense mechanism in which unacceptable behaviors or feelings are explained in a rational or logical manner; this avoids the true explanation of the behavior or feeling in question. This process can be in a range from fully conscious (e.g. to present an external defense against ridicule from others) to mostly subconscious (e.g. to create a block against internal feelings of guilt). Rationalization is one of the defense mechanisms proposed by Sigmund Freud, which were later developed further by his daughter Anna Freud. According to the DSM-IV rationalization occurs "when the individual deals with emotional conflict or internal or external stressors by concealing the true motivations for his or her own thoughts, actions, or feelings through the elaboration of reassuring or self serving but incorrect explanations." - Anonymous1 decade ago
It's hardly news that religion and science can coexist. I think I came independently to this conclusion around the age of 12 or so.
However, the literal interpretation of genesis as postulated by Creationists is incompatible with science as was the claim by Christians at some time that the earth must be the center of the universe.
But there is currently no problem with regarding a supernatural entity as a first cause or an inventor of natural laws and thus the originator of what we know. This is not testable, and therefore not in the realm of science, so science does not have a problem with it.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I'm a Deist/Pantheist with a B.A. in Anthropology. I accept Evolution because of all the fact surrounding it. My belief in a God doesn't negate a hand in evolution, but I believe God is all the laws of the universe including probabilities. So there is a probability we never evolved in an alternate reality. On another note, my sister is Roman Catholic and going for her Masters in Anthropology.
Keep in mind that I keep my personal beliefs OUT when studying science.
And no, I haven't seen the documentary.
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- save the humansLv 51 decade ago
first of all, i wont quote the bible but i do need to point out the importance of the bible, as it where we get our knowledge of God from... right?
well, creationism says that God made the universe and everything in it, and darwinism says that we don't know who made us, but this is what we are and this is how we got here...
the bible says 6,000 years, evolutionists say billions of years...
the bible says God put us here the way we are now, evolution says we've been constantly changing over billions of years...
the bible says to worship God, evolution has nothing even related to a deity...
the bible says when we die we go to heaven or hell, evolution doesn't address the 'afterlife'...
these comparisons are starkly different... how could they be compatible? i find these documentaries (although i haven't seen this one) fascinating.
Source(s): me, and i believe in God. - 1 decade ago
The two ideas are compatible, because a belief in a literal interpretation of the Bible is not necessary for a belief in God.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
No,I don't think the concept of a god is incompatible with a god/creator but it doesn't help those who think we come from Adam and Eve.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
There's just too much scientific proof not to believe that evolution happens.
- 1 decade ago
(Do you call people who accept gravity "Newtonists"?)
The bible states man was created full formed, one day after animals and three days after plants, and suggests death and disease did not exist before mankind. It is wrong about these things. It's that simple.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
They aren't fully. If you think talking snakes and dust men make more sense than common descent, you're insane.