SPEEDING TICKETS - it's NOT fair how police give a "one size fits all" fine for BOTH millionaires & unemployed?

You've missed one end of the spectrum entirely though, my friend.

It's true that a wealthy enough man can pay fines all day and never concern himself about the loss. It has no deterrent or punishment value for him whatsoever. In a real sense, the only loss he suffers is the time he has to wait while the officer writes the ticket.

But it is also true that a poor enough man can never pay any fines and can never be compelled to. It doesn't matter if he has a hundred tickets or only one... you'll get the same from him either way. I know some folk that not only accumulate dozens of tickets for driving violations, but they don't bother with a license, insurance, or any of a dozen other niceties of the road. When they are pulled over, they just add the new tickets to the pile of old ones. It doesn't deter or punish them in any way, either.

So really, the only people dramatically affected by such things are those well-off enough to possibly pay them but not so well-off to completely ignore them. The middle class. I wouldn't find that a surprising conclusion, myself.

You have a point. I gave many a lecture to a the poor guy with 5 kids in the car, but now a days they call Internal Affairs and you get suspended without pay for a day or more for being rude and disrespectful. So most cops today just write the ticket and don't exercise their discretion.

However the law has to be consistent. Based on what you say, the poor guy should show more concern for his driving habits if he has more to lose. You can't adjust the law to meet income issues. It would be like sentencing elderly people to less time than young people, because elderly could die in prison. Or giving preference to pregnant women. Drive careful.

It's not an issue of how much you make, but how much you break the law. All are equal under the law. As far as a ticket being a deterrent, that's where "points" come into play. If you have too many infractions, you lose your license, regardless of circumstance.

Basically, stop whining and pay attention to your car and your surroundings. "Unintentional" speeding? That means you weren't intentionally pushing the gas pedal. Meaning you should have not been moving, unless you weren't engaged in driving. If that's the case, I don't want you on the road when I'm driving. If the cop wasn't there, you'd still be blissfully unaware of your own faulty logic.

I have a fantastic solution to your problem. Don't speed. Follow the laws. Problem solved. eDIT: What's unintentional speeding? It is the duty and responsibility of the driver to stay focused and pay attention at ALL times. If you are doing this, then there is no such things as unintentional speeding. I've been a driver for about 20 yrs, and never had a speeding ticket.

Sweetie, if you are speeding, you are breaking the law. The cop stops the lawbreaker, not the millionaire of the poor man. The cop is just doing his job--and, believe me, I don't like cops any better than you seem to, i'm certainly not rich and have received my fair share of speeding tickets! But I never received on that I didn't deserve. In fact, twice in my life i've received "warnings" when the cop giving me the ticket could have given me the real deal instead of a warning! So I'm greatful for little things!

Um. Really?

Lets say there are two men running a con operation, scamming people out of thousands of dollars selling fake insurance. One of the men is 63, the other is 26. Both men are equals in the operation. They are arrested, charged with and found guilty of ten felony counts each. Should the younger man be sentenced to more time in jail because he has more life left to live than the older man?

When you speed, intentionally or not, you are breaking a law. If you break a law and get caught, you will have to face the consequences.

The United States justice system is already screwed up enough, and you want to add more rules and exceptions to it? If you don't want to pay a speeding ticket, don't speed.

Are we all supposed to run around with our tax returns in our pockets to make sure we get charged according to our yearly income.

This is totally fair, and is great motivation to you to learn to become very useful to the world, so you can also demand a high paycheck.

The what an open and free market is about.

The alternative is communism, where no matter how hard you work, you get the same as every one else. Look to Old Russia and China for how well that would work out for you.

I like the 'you get what you earn' model. It's not totally perfect, but at least I'm motivated to do better things.

'Unintentional speeding' is your car really that far out of your control?

Justice is Blind.

This means that our legal system must decide ahead of time what the punishment will be...period. Then, when someone comes along who actually breaks the law, that person is treated the same as everyone else who broke it.

This keeps the system from becoming arbitrary or capricious.

Law enforcement doesn't work. It never has. There isn't a single bit of evidence that shows that police actually prevent anything. Many things we'd call crimes would require we think twice regardless if police existed. The more police there are the more criminals are created, because you aren't a criminal until you are processed by the justice system.

Admiralty law is secretly what is used in court rooms. Law of the land isn't much better, but admiralty law was created by pirates (seriously). When you say "Yes I am John Doe your honor" you are actually agreeing to represent a fictional character with your name in all capital letters. This is admiralty law mixing with law of the land.

getting a fine for a ticket is a set price... it comes down to the fact that if you break the law and speed, you get a ticket. If your poor and cant afford a ticket. dont speed. simple.. now only the rich guy gets the fine