Global Warming: Religion and brainwashing hoax!?

In some ways you're right: teacher's should not be manipulating our young minds to fit their miss informed beliefs. The world will NOT end from Global Warming. I know this because last semester my Semester prodject was the causes and effects of Global Warming. It turns out the Earth has been going through stages of heating and cooling for millions of years. Some people just want to believe that we will come to an end because that is what their religion teaches them and they want to believe that while still maintaining a scienctifc outlook. You're right: We cannot stop global warming, but we can prolong it. That's what everything in the media today is about. People are just so afraid of what they think they know.

Climate change is a fact, it has been happening since the earth began. Man made global warming is highly debatable, and is no way established by science as a fact. Ian Plimer (Professor of Earth Sciences at Adelaide Uni) has written a detailed and excellent book debunking the evidence for man-made global warming that has been given by climate change scientists. Some aspects of his book have been disputed by scientists. The earth has been cooling for the last decade (scientists agree on this). We are also currently in an ice age, so warming is to be expected at some point. A small carbon tax has an absolutely insignificant effect on carbon emissions. If we want to reduce emissions (it's still very unclear whether this is useful or not) we should be using nuclear power, dramatically reducing world population growth by any suitable ethical means available, and adopting mass transport.

O.K. you say "it is a theory on how the world will end" could you name one reputable scientist or scientific group who have stated this anywhere anytime.

Even worst case scenario (which no scientific group is predicting) the Antarctic and Greenland melting completely is not going to end the world, that's just silly.

Sea level has risen many times in the past as natural climate change has melted the poles and all glaciers. The predicted change is going to happen over ~100 years so no one is likely to be caught in a flash flood. It is the buildings and infrastructure of major cities that are at risk and that is an economic effect.

The current estimate is that ~50% of our emissions are absorbed by natural sinks like plant life.

"most of all not BREATHE." sorry but that is a denier myth human extract their co2 from the food we eat, in simple terms what you breathe out came from the atmosphere in the first place that is a cycle.

What a car emits comes from oil, which has been under ground for around 100 million years, when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and sea levels were around 100m higher than today, there were no ice caps.

bravozulu repeats the doomsday end of the world theory, I still see no evidence that this has ever been stated by any scientist, Come on deniers you like to talk about lack of evidence and religions, were is the evidence backing this claim.

It doesn't matter whether global warming is man made or just a cycle in the earth's history .... it is happening. Between solar processes or natural earth processes such as volcanoes and the ever present forest fires which will be argued to have occurances whether or not mankind were present. It still just doesn't matter how it is happening, it is.

FACT: "Atmospheric levels of CO2 are determined by how much coal, natural gas and oil we burn and how many trees we cut down, as well as by natural processes like plant growth. Atmospheric levels of water vapor, on the other hand, cannot be directly controlled by people; rather, they are determined by temperatures. The warmer the atmosphere, the more water vapor it can hold. As a result, water vapor is part of an amplifying effect. Greenhouse gases like CO2 warm the air, which in turn adds to the stock of water vapor, which in turn traps more heat and accelerates warming."

http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=1011

We have gone past the point of no return unless we can build improvements to assist in reflecting light away from the earth.

First you have to understand how long the earth has been storing up the fossil fuels. The coal, oil and natural gas that we are using now are products of the earth converting plants and animals into their present forms over (often) millions of years. They have been stored now for millions of years without being used until now. By being used now, we are converting these fuels from stored carbon, into released carbon. Thus allowing this released carbon to act as a greenhouse effect gas again.

Since we are talking about a situation where the Earth once had a lot of stored carbon and now that stored carbon is disappearing at a tremendous rate (and will continue into the future) We can be truthful in saying that there is a definite trend, and relationship in the increase of greenhouse gasses. We can also say that these greenhouse gasses would not have been released without the intervention of man. Logically therefore we can say that global warming gasses have been released and any global warming increases are directly attributed to mankind’s releasing them.

The damage done by increased greenhouse emissions has already taken its toll. This is evident by the melting of polar ice and glaciers across the globe. Some will say that there is no such thing as global warming, because there is in their opinion very little change in the average global temperature. However when you take into account the fact that there is less ice, and snow, because of the melting of polar ice and glaciers across the globe. That melted ice, snow and glaciers across the globe will in themselves temporarily lower the overall ocean temperatures untill they all melt. Thereby lowering the average temperatures on the earth. So if you account for that, the temperature can be proven to be increasing.

We cannot get the world back the way it was, even as of fifty years ago, much less stop the damage that will still occur in the future. Sure we could try to stop all industry that will cause pollution, but at what cost. Without industry we could not sustain the present world population. Giving up industry and sacrificing billions of people on this planet in the process, is not a viable solution (even trying to merely lower greenhouse emissions is at best a temporary solution).

The biggest problem we have now is not just the fact that we have more greenhouse gasses trapping heat in, but we are getting less and less sunlight being reflected out from the planet. As the snow cover melts from more and more of the planets surface, the sunlight heats up more parts of the earth that once reflected light back out. It is like a dog chasing its tail (until it gets dizzy and falls from exhaustion). As global warming just keeps building on itself till the ecological balance fails, and this planet will no longer sustain the teeming human populations.

Greenhouse effect cure (there are no real cures but this may help till we can find one). First I want to point out that there are no real, viable short term, or easy methods of curing our Global warming woes. The damage to the environment has already been done and is, for all intent and purposes, basically irreversible. It is likely, however, that any type of plan to get rid of Global warming, will require some type of dramatic ecological compromises.

Some will say that all we need to do is give up industry on the planet and the world will eventually go back to the way it was. I say it is too late for that solution (as a short term solution anyway).

My plan, however, will require the use of old tires and recycled plastics. Of course it will require some engineering feats also, and a few ecological compromises. The benefits of using these wasted products will far outweigh the compromises required.

My idea is to build large floating islands (white on top, to reflect sunlight back out of our planet) made from

Your blatantly biased exaggeration of what you probably actually experienced shows that you are a narrow minded dolt with absolutely no grasp of reality. Mere admittance of your own religious shortsightedness (aka Chrisitanity) creates a level of ignorance on your part that is almost blindingly arrogant.

Why don't you try a little education and observation before criticizing others who simply take the safe route and actually spend time and effort trying to make this world a better place?

Simply LOOKING can tell you that doing simple things for the environment can't make anything worse.

Look how much waste people produce.

Look how much pollution is dumped into our air and water.

Look at how crowded with people the land is becoming.

Look at how much wildlife areas are being destroyed to make land for more people and farms and factories.

Isn't that simple to see?

Gee, what did people do before air conditioning? Oh, I remember, we opened the windows.

Your question is a thinly disguised tirade for religion over science. The world is warming, and people are contributing to it. However, if all the ice in the world melts it will NOT drown the planet, but it would flood every coastal city in the world. Notice in the link below that the outline of every continent except Antarctica is visible due to city lights. What do you think would happen if half of the world's population had to move to higher ground? Their homes would be gone. Their jobs would be gone.

I doubt you were told to turn off your alarm clock any more than you were told to unplug your refrigerator. However, most of your electronics are consuming electricity even when appearing to be off. Have a DVD recorder, or a satellite receiver? These have programming which runs all the time, even if you don't use it.

Is your faith so shaky that you must reject anything that even remotely seems to question it? Or, are you seeking a scapegoat issue to justify your mindset? As to teaching religion in school, why do you assume that only your brand of religion would be taught? Why is your religion the only right path?

Not out of proportion... that’s the way you look at it? Did you look at your own opinion? Be logical, if there’s a baby in the car or the condition calls for it, do you have to ask the public if you should turn your AC on or not? Is there anything inside your skull?

Seemingly you know something about the bible, then you know that flood is not going to eradicate the mankind but “FIRE.” Then don’t believe those teachers, they are just trying hard to inject that global warming is something we should not take for granted.

Look and observe and learn.. see whats killing the people in different areas of the world..

It is more like a religion when it is explained by Al Gore or ninety percent of the alarmists. It isn't a religion because of how it depects the world ending though that doomsday cult aspect certainly attracts very many of them. It is a religion because they believe it without questioning it and with no logical basis to do that. That take it as fact because some blowhard preachy politician told them some.

Gore stated it was a greater threat than nuclear weapons. Slippery politician that he is, he won't say things directly but the implications are obvious to anyone.

After reading that load of bovine scat, the best possible action you can take is to sit down, close you gob and listen to your teacher.

"I mean what if there was a baby or a dog in the car!"

Was there a baby, or heaven help us all, a dog in the car? In reality who cares what was in the car? What do you think people did before air conditioning in cars became the norm?

I agree that it is being blown out of proportion by some, but realize that there is a big difference between what your moron teacher and boyfriend's hippie sister says, and what actual scientists are saying. Scientists are not saying the world will flood like Noah's Ark, and they're not saying it will be the end of the world. They're saying it is a serious problem.

Something shouldn't have to be capable of completely obliterating the planet before it is considered bad. There is quite a big range between "end of the world as we know it" and "not a problem at all", wouldn't you say?

Here are some places to start if you want to learn about what scientists are actually saying.

http://dels.nas.edu/dels/rpt_briefs/climate_change... (pages 17-19)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/climate/impact/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_global_war...