Christians: If a fellow Christian supports gay rights, does that make them un-Christian?

I think it's absolutely possible to support gay rights, or same-sex marriage, and be Christian.

I think the people who promote a narrow-minded view of who the "ideal Christian" is are really missing the point of their religion. In essence, Christianity is following the teachings of Jesus, not the teachings of archaic parts of the Old Testament and biased points of view from various New Testament contributers who didn't even meet Jesus, let alone live in that time period.

If someone says that supporting gay rights is anti-Christian, then I would assume someone supporting the total abolition of slavery is also anti-Christian because the Bible treats both minority groups in similiar ways. Homosexuality is seen as an abomination, and slaves are degraded and seen as mere property to sell and trade. But yet no one thinks twice when someone supports the abolition of slavery, yet they all grab their fire and pitchforks for someone supporting two consenting adults getting married?

Some elitist Christians try to pretend that their religion is organized and strict, when really they individually pick-and-choose which parts of the Bible to accept as truth and which parts to ignore. Instead of addressing the Bible as a coherent whole, they focus on political-driven issues like same-sex marriage and abortion to make distinctions between who are "true" Christians and who are not.

It really is quite pathetic.

Not at all. Well, I'm not Christian, but that's my opinion.

Everybody in my health class is Christian (except me), and only one kid in the class doesn't support same sex marriage. The difference may be that I live in a more liberal neighborhood.

I feel bad for the girl. The only reason many Christians don't believe in gay rights is because of Leviticus, and that's the stupidest book in the Bible (in my opinion). It tells you that you can have slaves, that you can't eat certain bugs and animals, and that you have to make sacrifices. Of course Christians disregard all of these now save the one against homosexuals. -_-

Want to see something really ******? Read this: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1052/1052_01.a... This comic writer has sold many copies of comic books because of his bigoted and ignorant views!

All in all, I believe that the Bible is so ambiguous that Christians should be able to pick and choose what they believe. I think it's stupid that many of them are against gays simply because the Bible tells them to.

I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion and i believe that this is not what God planned to happen, but you are definitely still a Christian if you support gay rights. Its kind of like saying that people who...think cussing is ok aren't Christian. That's ridiculous, I know a lot of Christians who cuss! So I think you are still a Christian if you support gay rights. God will always judge you fairly.:-)

I quite agree that it is amazing how hypocritical christians are.

To clarify what the Bible does say "We love our neighbors as ourselves" and reserve judgments because that is God's job, not our own. This means that we should treat one another humanely and regardless of the situation. However, we don't necessarily support the decision according to some denominations. Other denominations accept homosexuality as another form of love.

Fact is... there are no longer set guidelines for ~all~ Christians. We have so many different variations, we can pick and choose WHAT we believe. Strictly taking the Bible literally, however, it is not supported.

So, is it Christian? Traditionally, no.

But as a strong believer, I also believe in love in all forms - as long as it is pure. ~nods~ (And when I say pure, I mean 'Not just for fun' as many like to do' - not necessarily the virgins until the night kind of thing... I'm an odd one...)

They keep ignoring the don't judge others request.

Hypocrite is the sign nailed over their heads. The same people who say gay rights is a sin "it is in the Bible "(Old Testament) also say we are not bound by the Old Testament laws, hmmm.That is when they are asked about stoning their bad children.

as a heathen, you're in no position to judge between christians.

why ?

b/c you don't know what the bible's stand on the subject is. Even when you do know, your personal stand doesn't flow with scripture. You prove it by taking the side of the young lady who is for gay rights ... lol.

the subject matter they discussed : gay rights.

In yr argument, you bring in ... hypocrisy ... and place this above the Subject Matter. Stick to the subject matter ... should a christian be for / against gay rights ? of course NOT !

If we are, we would be partakers of the sin, encouraging sin. That young lady is probably a baby christian, lots to learn.

hope this view help you to u/stand the christian stance on this matter.

Before I answer, we need to clarify what is meant by "rights." Rights are entitlements that are endowments of the Creator. The right to marry is clearly one of those rights, for marriage is part of the Creator's design for humans.

Since human offspring take about two decades of maturation, nurturance, and education, every child needs both biological parents, mother and father, to have a chance in life. Long before Christianity and in places today where Christianity is just a footnote, mating couples have promised themselves in marriage so that their children could develop into successful adults.

The right to marry is the right to choose an eligible mating partner with whom to begin a family. To be eligible, the partner must be capable of permanent mating: one, single, unmarried, consenting non-relative adult of the opposite sex. Without each of these attributes, permanent mating is impossible.

With these preliminaries, I'm ready to answer your question. In America, homosexuals presently enjoy the exact same rights as everyone else. For example, homosexuals already have the legal right to marry, but like everyone else, they have to marry an eligible mating partner.

What is claimed to be "gay rights" are legal privileges extended to homosexuals but not to anyone else. For example, homosexuals demand the right to have criminals punished more severely if they speak against homosexuality. That is a legal privilege the rest of us do no enjoy, and hence not an equal right at all.

Of course, they have begun to demand the right to have their sexual relations with ineligible partners called marriages. That, too, is not an equal right, because everyone else is subject to the natural restrictions of a mating relationship. We cannot "marry" multiple partners or anyone who is already married, nonconsenting, a close relative, or a child, and of course anyone of the same sex.

Finally, to the main question: If anyone supports giving special privileges on the basis of sexual immorality, and especially if they are for undermining marriage, they are going against Christ because he taught that God sanctions actual marriage, in which "a man shall leave his mother and and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."

Cheers,

Bruce

It depends what you mean by "gay rights". If she supports the idea that 2 people of the same sex can be "married" in the eyes of God, then she has an unChristian view of marriage. That in itself would not make her "un-Christian", but she is certainly holding an "unChristian" view on that issue. Jesus clearly taught that marriage is the lifelong union of a man and a woman. If you want to call Jesus a bigot for teaching that, I'll happily be a "bigot" with Jesus, than to accept your strange views of what constitutes marriage.

i'm confused-she says she is a pastor and would never perform a gay marriage, and would go to jail before performing one. She also says if gays are allowed to marry, that people should be allowed to marry their pets.

How is she not being a hypocrite? Shes ok with people being gay, as long as they don't ever get married and as long as she doesn't have to marry them if it ever becomes legal. You don't consider her a bigot?

I'm not saying I believe one way or the other, i'm just curious why you asked this.

We should not judge others. All we should do is guide. Those that sin will meet their make some day soon and face judgment.

Romans 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law SHALL BE JUDGED by the law;