A survey a la "suhwahaksaen": to determine differences between users favorite composers, relating to gender?

Hi Alberich - this seems like a colourful way to start a cold, dreary, wintry Saturday morning in the bookshop!

Well, here goes: (I'm a female)

1. Mozart

2. Bach

3. Beethoven

4. Puccini

5. Rachmaninoff

6. Chopin

7. Schubert

8. Tchaikowsky

9. Verdi

10. Ravel

11. Elgar

12. Wagner

13. Brahms

14. Debussy

It'll be interesting to see the results of your survey!

Hafwen x

PS. What is it with the liberal sprinklings of "thumbs down" here for some of our answers???

Gender: Female

+

1) Bach

2) Beethoven

3) Brahms

4) Schubert

5) Ravel

6) Debussy

7) Rachmaninoff

-

8) Mozart

9) Chopin

10) Tchaikovsky

11) Puccini

12) Elgar

13) Verdi

14) Wagner

Gender: Male

Favorite:

1) Beethoven

2) Bach

3) Schubert

4) Chopin

5) Rachmaninoff

6) Mozart

7) Tchaikovsky

Least Favorite (with 14 being the least):

8) Elgar

9) Debussy

10) Ravel

11) Brahms

12) Wagner (sorry, haven't listened to enough)

13) Puccini

14) Verdi

Yeah, not much of an opera freak, am I?

Gender: Male

(from the list)

1. Tchaikovsky

2. Rachmaninoff

3. Beethoven

4. Debussy

5. Chopin

6. Bach (J.S. I presume...)

7. Mozart

8. Schubert

9. Brahms

10. Ravel

11. Vivaldi (any one Baroque composer)

12. Wagner

13. Verdi

14. Elgar

Yep, I understand my vote doesn't count. Just wanted to make a list.

Dear Alberich,

I do hope my answering will not give you too much more work to do, but as I write this, I notice that I am only the nineteenth answer...

I am of course female, and I am of course *incredibley* dismayed that you have only included two baroque composers!

Now then, you have only given fourteen composers to choose from, and I do not dislike any of them. So I will simply order them from favourite to least favourite, and you can count the first seven as "favourites..."

1. Bach

2. Schubert

3. Elgar

4. Mozart

5. Verdi

6. Wagner

7. Beethoven

8. Puccini

9. Chopin

10. Brahms

11. Rachmaninoff

12. Tchaikovsky

13. Debussy

14. Ravel.

However, if I were able to choose any composer that I liked, that list would look very different. I will not write out that list, but I will say that the first composer on that list would be Vivaldi, and that I would include Handel, Monteverdi, Marini, Castello, Telemann and Rossini.

I look forward to seeing the results of this,

all the best, MissLimLam

Gender: Female obviously :)

Like:

1) Schubert

2) Beethoven

3) Bach

4)Tchaikovsky

5) Verdi

6) Mozart

7) Elgar

Dislike (well, sort of!):

1) Puccini

2) Brahms

3) Ravel

4) Wagner

5) Chopin

6) Rachmaninoff

7) Debussy

I actually mostly like the first three on my "least favorites" list. Ravel and Wagner I don't much like, but I still respect as great composers. Chopin and Rachmaninoff would once have been among my favorites, but they've worn thin over time- now they just seem cliched and overly sentimental. Debussy... I almost never like Debussy.

Femme

Favorite:

1. Mozart

2. Beethoven

3. Schubert

4. Debussy

5. Bach

6. Verdi

7. Brahms

Least Favorite:

1. Elgar

2. Puccini

3. Rachmaninoff

4. Tchaikovsky

5. Wagner

6. Chopin

7. Ravel

Hmm....

Well, Aberich, for your survey. I realized in making the choices as per your proscriptions how completely non-partial the most 'impartial' of surveys or grading systems are. They are about as arbitrary as the standards or tastes of the person or persons who made them up!

Of my 'least favorites,' the five at the bottom are almost interchangeably and equally eligible for the lowest slot, and some of my favorite(s) are not even on the list! (+ or -, Elgar would not have appeared on my list.)Thank Apollo you said 'your favorites,' the subjectivity made it easier to be about as arbitrary as your subjective list!

IMHO, no one should vote on this or Suwa--Saens' 'q' - because it is a poll to extract data.

Happy extracting and collating!

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Participant: Male

Bravo, Applause, Encore:

1) Mozart

2) Debussy

3) Rameau (any ONE Baroque)

4) Beethoven

5) Schubert

6) Ravel

7) Verdi

Boo, Hiss, & Cat-calls:

1) Chopin

2) Puccini

3) Brahms

4) Tchaikovsky

5) Wagner

6) Elgar

7) Rachmaninoff

petr b.

EDIT ADD: Yeah, Hafwen, what is with thumbs up OR down when it is, after all, a Poll? I think there should be no best answer points, either, because it is a Poll!

Some mothers hurt their offspring and some mothers protect them. Some women are stronger than men and some men are stronger than women. Women are smarter than men and men are smarter than women. And if the above is true (and it is) how do we judge what happens to women and men when determining rights? I don't believe any of the things mentioned above (and most stereotypes, whether true or not) should determine rights for men and women. In my opinion, Both the human male and human female is the same. Everyone has a brain, a heart, 206 bones, 46 chromosomes, and also, did you know that everyone is born a girl. Males don't develop their male "parts" until weeks after they're born. We are all the same. Some females have masculine features, while some men have feminine features. THINK ABOUT IT! If we weren't taught to think a certain thing, to believe a certain way, how would we be? Really?? When a child is young he/she doesn't even think about the differences between men and women. We only think about it later on because we were taught to. It was brought to our attention, but we never really cared before. So why should we care now??? Do we grant male and female horses different rights. Male and female birds, dogs, cats, etc. When a species is on the verge of extinction do we say "Lets only save the female?" "Lets only save the male" No, we don't. We say "Lets save the species." When it all comes down to it.... We're all the same. REALLY!!! We are. Our minds are all built the exact same way. So if both women and men are really all the same, than our rights should be all the same as well...

Gender: Male

1) Brahms

2) Tchaikovsky

3) Beethoven

4) Ravel

5) Elgar

6) Verdi

7) Bach

Scale: 1 (most liked) - 7 (least liked)

1) Debussy

2) Mozart

3) Puccini

4) Wagner

5) Schubert

6) Rachmaninov

7) Chopin

Explanation of picks:

I am a cellist and that being said the top 5 (and 6 of 7) of my favorites have all written pieces that are well understood pieces that are part of our standard repertoire. Also, the fact that Rachmaninov and Chopin are mainly composers of piano literature I am just not thoroughly familiar with them, so it's not that they are my least favorite, just simply the ones that I am least familiar with. Puccini and Wagner are down on my list because again, I am a cellist, and am not incredibly familiar with many major operas or pieces of the vocal literature.

Oh goody! What a fun question, Alberich!

Gender: Female

Favorites:

1) Sir Arthur Sullivan (duh!)

2) Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

3) Igor Stravinsky

4) Ludwig van Beethoven

5) Peter Tchaikovsky

6) Antonin Dvorak

7) Frederic Chopin

Least Favourites (number 7 being the worst)

1) Richard Wagner (sorry, Alberich)

2) Ravel

3) Elgar

4) Gluck

5) Mussorgsky

6) Rachmaninoff

7) Schoenberg

Once again, great question, Alberich!

EDIT: Little mistakes can lead to big consequences, eh, Alberich?