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Why In The USA Energy Star didn't mention CFL lights has Power Factoring?

The universally-repeated misinformation is that these bulbs use “only about 25%" of the power the old-style bulbs do: This is not precisely the truth. In actuality because CFLs sold here in the U.S. have significant inductive Reactance and thus an AC phase difference between Voltage and Current, the Power Factor of the CFL is around “.55"

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Shhh! Don't tell the power companies. They will change their meters to correctly measure the power we are actually using raising our electric bills.

    If "cap and trade" becomes the law of the land, according to Obama we won't be able to afford electricity anyway!

    Source(s): Doesn't this idiot realize 50% of our electric power is from coal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4 Everything he said is wrong. Not one effect has been observed. In fact, we are getting cooler. New York set cool record since 1958 for June this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvG2XptIEJk And who benefits from "cap and trade"? http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/whos-getting-r...
  • John W
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    1 decade ago

    Most of the modern CFL's use power transistors to produce the frequencies needed to excite the plasma hence they are not necessarily an inductive load but could easily be a capacitive load as they are essentially switched power supplies that rectify the AC to DC before inverting it to the appropriate frequencies.

    You can't really compare the power factors in the traditional sense as it won't be a linear load and could easily be measured as a poor inductive load by those kill-a-watt type meters when in fact they are not.

    Chances are they are as cheap as they can be so whatever they are doing to the AC grid is probably not nice but could average out over a neighborhood as they would occur due to commutation spikes on a beat frequency between the AC supply frequency and the actual frequencies used to excite the plasma, since the plasma excitation power is on it's own oscillator, their effects would not be synchronized from CFL to CFL thereby allowing the apparent poor inductive reactance to average out.

    Basically, they don't mention it because you can't measure the power factor in the traditional sense but that doesn't stop people from trying whenever they buy a meter with a nifty PF setting.

  • 1 decade ago

    Actually dude, let me explain what the difference between the CFL and your regular old incandescent bulb.

    Take your regular, old, incandescent light bulb. . Out of the amount of electricity it uses, only about 5% of the output is actual light. The other 95% would be heat, which is why it's gets hot. This means it's far more efficient for heating than lighting... but no one uses it for heat.

    Now we have the new CFL light bulbs, with significantly higher lifetime and uses 20% for light compared to the 5% the incandescent light bulb uses. So, if order to output the same amount of light, you'd only need 15 watts to balance the 60 watt incandescent bulb. So yes, they use 25% of the power that incandescent light bulbs use, or 1/4.

  • 1 decade ago

    I didn't understand 1/2 of what you said. I work at a utility exploration center and we hook light bulbs up to watt meters. I can tell you that a 60 watt bulb uses 60 watts and for the same amount of light you can use a 15 watt CFL which uses 15 watts. That is how my electricity is measured and billed so how can that mean it uses a different amount of energy?

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  • 1 decade ago

    Assuming this is true of CFL's, it sounds like they will still use 1/2 the energy for the same amount of light.

    Also, on the same circuit as capacitive loads, such as switching power supplies (computers, TV's, DVD players, etc.) the power factors should cancel out, shouldn't they?

  • 1 decade ago

    How many morons in the USA who went to public school have a clue what you are talking about?

    Our president thinks putting air in your tires will have the effect on the oil market as producing billions of barrels of oil.

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