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Why isn't Brawn cars investigated for safety?

In the last 16 years I don't remember anything other than wheels and bodywork appendages being detached from cars, mostly because of contacts. Now a 800 gram spring nut for no reason, how safe is the Brawn car?

Should they be allowed on track tomorrow before a meticulous scrutiny?

Update:

Rosbif, it is understandable if there was a collision, but this was qualifying. Anything put on that car should be solid enough to be part of the car till the race/qual ends.

Matt, you shouldn't be saying that it is beyond their control. Potential lethal projectiles better be in someone's control!

I'm for asking them to revert to an earlier configuration for this race. Anyways the new package isn't working for Brawn.

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  • rosbif
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago
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    Things break. The metal may have had an undetectable faultline, the part may have been poorly installed, a bump may have caused a stress in the part which it wasn't intended to undergo...if the part hasn't been altered since the start of the season then I'd tend to say it was a one-off and let them race; if the part is new, then I'd tell them to put the old version back on until an investigation was completed.

    EDIT

    As I've said elsewhere, if you're going to put a lid on the cars then let's just scrap F1 and watch the LMP1 category instead. LMP1 is already more or less several F1 races joined together by pistops, so just shorten their race distance and we can avoid wasting all that money duplicating a race series... or common sense can be allowed to win out over mob rule and knee-jerk reactions if you prefer...

  • 1 decade ago

    Allan asked a question about closed cockpit earlier.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApZMK...

    Many there were against the idea of closed cockpit, but I, for one, feel that it is a good idea.

    Some had questioned why the wheel had come off to hit Surtees in the head and that they should investigate the cause of, and find a solution to the wheel coming off, instead of resorting to having a closed cockpit. Unfortunately in F1, stuff come off the car and there is not a lot you can do about it to prevent it, especially after an impact. Sure, two people getting hit in the head within a week does sound like an unfortunate coincidence, but with safety, you can't take chances IMO. Closed cockpit therefore, I think is the most reasonable solution to prevent injury from flying objects.

    Having said that, yes, by all means, the Brawn car should be scrutinised thoroughly and if that means DQ or being forced to going back to the old or original version without the faulty component in it, then that is how it should be. I think the past 2 weeks have been a big wake up call for the F1 officials in the matter of safety.

    As I said before, it's just a sport. People don't have to die from it. It is a dangerous sport which involves high speeds and great G-forces. F1 should lead the way not just in the performance side of the engineering, but also in the safety aspect.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I have no doubt that they are going to be fairly heavily scutinised over this incident, and you can be certain that Brawn will conduct their own investigation into this as well. However as Rosbif said things break. It would be harsh to call into question the overall safety of the car over one incident. I remember listening to an interview with Mark Gascoyne talking about the complexity of a modern F1 car. He said that even if you got 99% of everything right on the car there would still be more than 10 things wrong with it. It needs to be investigated to see whether this is a design flaw, manufacturing flaw or possibly somebody failing to install a part properly. Formula 1 is dangerous. The speeds and forces are higher than in just about every other form of motorsport. If it fails again in the same way then they should probably be forced to re-engineer that part of the car. However this is part of racing.

  • 5 years ago

    I have to wonder if all of you who think this is ridiculous, actually have children. Lets be realistic, no one is going to keep there high school child in a car seat, even if they are not the recommended height for a seat belt, solely for the reasoning that they most likely will not get much taller, but a 15 year old will have more maturity in sitting in a seat belt correctly, then a 5 year old will. I see nothing wrong with us protecting our children. There are car seats you can purchase that will hold your child until they are ready for a booster, you should only have to purchase 1- 3 car seats for your child infant seat, which not everyone purchases, a convertible which you can get one that will hold from 5 to 80 pounds so this kind of seat really is the only one you would have to purchase then the booster which you may not necessarily need depending on the convertible seat you purchase, so I don't think it is a money game, I think you are making a stupid decision the the car seat you are choosing to buy.

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  • 1 decade ago

    The part should be inspected for cracks if it was from the same supplier. There are several different types of steel and just a slight difference in carbon, moly or chromium would change its strength., Also, how long the spring was heat treated in the oven would make be a factor.

    So yes, if one part fails, the similar parts should most definitelyy be inspected. It would not take long and they could still race. The spring on the other car should be x-rayed and the piece that fell off should be tested for complete metal composition.

    Source(s): dad was a steel inspector
  • 1 decade ago

    A wheel comes off, you don't get investigated. I imagine the FIA and the Stewards will look at it, but if they kicked them out of tomorrows race something is wrong, because they couldnt have done anything about it. You can't say it is unsafe, because it could happen on any car. If they were going to do anything they would have done it in the qualifying session, they have to say they are going to investigate it within a certain amount of time i think. RB said he felt something give after the first lap, obviously something was wrong, if they can do them for anything it is that they didnt look at the fault.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I agree with you. Today a driver was seriously injured. These two cars will be going out again tomorrow, and if it was a problem with a batch of components that caused this, the replacements could well be defective as well.

    I agree that it should be checked by the stewards, and the spring nuts especially should be checked. It is not right that something like that should happen, especially something that could cause so much damage, that detached for no reason.

    Source(s): But then, there is the complete opposite of my argument, where there is no point in punishing a team for something that they have no control over, and wasn't done intentionally. Hard decision!
  • Allan
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Of course your right, both Brawns should be inspected thoroughly before being allowed to race.

    God willing Massa will be fine, but a couple of inches to the right and the guy would be dead. This phrase "motor sport is dangerous" is a f***ing cop out sometimes. Cars should not have pieces falling off them and when it happens the cause should be investigated fully before any further racing takes place.

    My thoughts are with him.

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