Why would the Original Sin be the fall in the garden of Eden as opposed to the Sin of Lucifer's Pride?

The story of Adam and Eve is an adaptation of a Babylonian creation myth, as I am given to understand. However, it contains certain truths, and just because it is a myth (and not completely literal) does not make it untrue. The truths I see it containing are: God and humans existed in a much closer relationship, humans removed their trust from God and put it in themseves, and that to save us from ourselves, God had to change the nature of the deal.

Many Christians don't necessarily believe that there was literally one man, one woman, a wiley serpent and forbidden tree. What it conveys, is that when humans turned their trust from God and towards satan and towards their own wisdom, and even worse, when we tried to hide from God and we lied to Him, to spare us an eternal life filled with sin and pain, he had to institute death. Can you imagine living eternally in the world we live in now, filled with pain, sin, and seperation?

Its not about blaming average people for guilt or obedience. Consider, for a person in this world to be truly and fully adult. The one requirement is that they be held responsible for their actions. Any less renders them childlike. And no, before the questions start, Christ's mercy and grace do not negate responsibility. Because yes, in God's eyes we are forgiven and in each others', but as Biblically mandated, we still have the responsibility to make amends as best we can when we sin against each other.

However, as far as I know, I have never heard Adam and Eve's sin referred to as "the original sin" but they may be because my denomination believes that original sin is not just the symptoms (the individual acts often referred to as sin) but as a long-term fatal illness that we cannot free ourselves from. Original in the sense I have always understood it has less to do with Adam and Eve (although yes, if you want to take it literally, that would be the source of it, the first sin committed by humans) and more to do with sin as an illness passed through conception because it is original to our post-fall nature. Original sin doesn't make us intrinsically bad or sinful (if it was completely intrinsic, we could never be let into heaven because God could never allow sin to enter into Heaven), because we all still have the prime gift that God gave us, the ability to love and the ability to forgive.

Another Edit: That should really read intrinsically evil instead of intrinsically sinful. We were made by God good, we sinned and became sin, and yes there is evil now intrinsic to our natures, but too many people minsunderstand this aspect of Christianity and often it is Christian fundamentalists who spend so much time on the evil of man and trying to legalistically purge themselves of it, that they forget that God made us in his loving image!

1) Why would the Original Sin be the fall in the garden of Eden as opposed to the Sin of Lucifer's Pride?

Yes, that is normally what is considered The Original Sin.

2) When Lucifer revolted against Heaven and claimed the throne of god, it would be the first sin and the greatest of them.

That is pure conjecture. We do not know when this happened. The bible does NOT tell us that this happened *before* the account of the fall of man. All we can say with **some** certainty is that Satan fell before the birth of Jesus.

3) It doesn't fit to me?

"The church" gets this idea from the concept that "original sin" is "the original sin of humankind". Sins committed by any other beings have no effect on the nature of mankind.

Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com/

He could undoubtedly appear to be the originator of sin. I do not suppose he had a alternative (assuming the Bible is one hundred% correct for sake of this reply) considering the fact that God created him understanding that he MUST betray. Much like Judas, he was once born with out a different alternative however to betray Jesus. And for all you Christians that consider or else, that's it: God both is aware of what you're going to do (and hence is all-powerful) or we've got loose will and he does not understand what we're going to do and we will shock God with our movements (i.e. that means the avid gamers in Revelations would simply come to a decision to not cross along side the parties that supposedly convey approximately the moment coming of Christ).

It was the first HUMAN sin. Humanity did not inherit the sin of Lucifer, but of Adam and Eve, the first humans.

You are right, however, in that Satan's sin was worse. That is why he alone will not be forgiven.

Last I checked, Lucifer was not the father of the human race.

The fallen angels will receive their punishment, lucifer/serpent in the Garden/satan/the devil included. This occurred in Heaven Ezekiel 28 (Amplified Bible) 13You were in [a]Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, the carnelian, topaz, jasper, chrysolite, beryl, onyx, sapphire, carbuncle, and emerald; and your settings and your sockets and engravings were wrought in gold. On the day that you were created they were prepared. 14You were the anointed cherub that covers with overshadowing [wings], and I set you so. You were upon the holy mountain of God; you walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire [like the paved work of gleaming sapphire stone upon which the God of Israel walked on Mount Sinai].

15You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created until iniquity and guilt were found in you. Isaiah 14:12 (Amplified Bible)

12How have you fallen from heaven, O [a]light-bringer and daystar, son of the morning! How you have been cut down to the ground, you who weakened and laid low the nations [O blasphemous, satanic king of Babylon!]

Hebrews 2:16 (Amplified Bible) 16For, as we all know, He [Christ] did not take hold of angels [[a]the fallen angels, to give them a helping and delivering hand], but He did take hold of [[b]the fallen] descendants of Abraham [to reach out to them a helping and delivering hand].

The Adams, our Original parents disobeyed GOD and sin entered the world. 1 Corinthians 15:22 (Amplified Bible)

22For just as [because of their [a]union of nature] in Adam all people die, so also [by virtue of their [b]union of nature] shall all in Christ be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15 (Amplified Bible) 44It is sown a natural (physical) body; it is raised a supernatural (a spiritual) body. [As surely as] there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. 45Thus it is written, The first man Adam became a living being (an individual personality); the last Adam (Christ) became a life-giving Spirit [restoring the dead to life]. 46But it is not the spiritual life which came first, but the physical and then the spiritual. 47The first man [was] from out of earth, made of dust (earthly-minded); the second Man [is] the Lord from out of heaven.(I) 48Now those who are made of the dust are like him who was first made of the dust (earthly-minded); and as is [the Man] from heaven, so also [are those] who are of heaven (heavenly-minded). 49And just as we have borne the image [of the man] of dust, so shall we and so [g]let us also bear the image [of the Man] of heaven.

So what if a little guilt lead you to Heaven? 1 Peter 4:18 (Amplified Bible) 18And if the righteous are barely saved, what will become of the godless and wicked?

one is the fall of satan, the other is the fall of mankind