Even if you're still a true believer in AGW, are you disappointed at your fellow believers dishonesty?

I can only guarantee one thing, this is going to get very messy and rude before it is over just like Watergate was, only thing is it was the liberals who won watergate because they owned the press and all of the reporters just like they still do. I am afraid that similar things could happen this time as well because the liberal side has more than 100 times the money to spend and they already own all the major criminal organization's the world or are allied with them. Conservative truth seekers are a serious minority no matter how you frame the equation and with the most money, the bulk of the media, the major organizations such as the oil companies and banks the liberals have a head start. Also consider that the majority of the judges in the court system from top to bottom are liberals and you will find it extremely difficult to convict the real culprits who designed the AGW scam and funded it.

The problem of AGW was caused by the sloppy failed peer review system used today for most non-critical scientific publication. This allows those whose work is not up to the stricter scientific method to get published anyway if their work supports a politically correct position. So unless some assumption, hypothesis or theory has been verified by the scientific method it can not be trusted to be real or scientific. There have been a lot of things that have killed or injured millions that passed peer review/ Chernobyl after all was passed by peer review while later examination through scientific method showed the basic problems that caused the failure.

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you call AGW an agenda, I call it science. >>They seem to have taken the stance that Anthropogenic Global Warming is a fact and they will make the data fit their belief<< you seem to be assuming that i was been born to be predisposed to believe in AGW. If i was, then you would be right. >>...do the True Believers even care about science anymore?<< as much as I care about honesty and an objective attitude when looking at evidence. >>Do True Believers even care if evidence contrary to AGW is suppressed<< what evidence is being suppressed? I have seen your denial blogs and "skeptic" views. I remember all too well the "Climategate" controversy. Frankly, I've looked, I've analyzed, I've researched, and i've gotten a lot from it. I still am very certain that global warming is real and that human activities contribute to it. I am skeptical of the affects proposed on both sides of the debate, but it is fairly clear that sea level rise of 20 meters is not a good thing.

I know nothing about these e-mails, but whatever they could say, it doesn't matter. There is plenty of research on the internet to prove global warming. It's not like the population are just "trusting" the scientists, we can see the research ourselves. If the emails were to say "yea we just made the whole GW thing up", then I'd just ignore it as i know from reviewing the research (backed with evidence) that it does exist.

This whole global warming does/doesn't exist debate is a joke, there is no debate, an irrelevant amount of scientists do not believe in it, few of which are probably climatologists. Human induced GW has been proven, just as the atom has been proven, but trying to prevent global warming will cost the small amount of wealthy people some money, and the wealthy are the ones that own the media, so they have the stupid ignorant majority on their side.

I repeat, human-induced global warming has been proven, just as smoke-induced lung cancer has been proven, and the same proportion of scientists do not believe in these two things.See if you can find a single peer-reviewed report to support your stance on this issue.

The 'scientific debate' is nonexistent, AGW was proven years ago, it's now just a fight between the scientists and the greedy to get the ignorant majority on their side.