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Double Standard. Egyptian men don't expect Egyptian girls to be like that. I mean I now understand. My mama is like don't ever talk to boys or do this and that, and I now understand why.

But for a western woman he knows that she is like that so he doesnt care it's weird.

Good question that I wished to answer.

Premarital sex in Arab or Islamic countries is a sin, while it's not the same in other countries or at least not a big issue. Every person is living according to his beliefs and rules of his/her society, so it's not possible to expect that Catholics fast Ramadan !. At the same time you may not expect nor accept an Arab or Muslim to eat infront of fasting Muslims.

Try to separate what we prefer from what we accept. Most men would prefer to marry a virgin girl, and some men may not accept a non-virgin any way from any nationality or religion.

It's true Arab men or let me speak more about Egyptians [my people] accept many things from a Western woman while not accepting similar from an Egyptian or other Arab. It's true and happens all the time, but I don't see it hypocracy like many others.

Open minded people can compromise when she is western as she lived accoriding to deffirent rules, she didn't know she was going to meet you in the future and she may not even know your rules. On the other hand a girl of your similar culture knows the rules and break it.

If you want to be sure it's not hypocracy, whatch the rules after they get married. Would the eastern man apply the very open minded Western rules or try to apply the conservative rules which may be similar if his wife was Egyptian or Arab too !!.

Edit:@zoser After marriage, Arab men accept or reject according to their mentality not the nationality of the wife. To know if he would deal with his Egyptian wife similar or not, he should be married to 2 and one of them is western. In this case if he accept something from one and rejected the same from the other wife, that means he is not a normal man.

all i can say is that's really sad how some men think

how they make a difference between western women and arab women

we're all the same we just speak a different language and were brought up different ways

but as woman we think the same of men and sometimes we would go to the extreme to do anything

for them.

when we want something we desire it and we don't care how we have it we just want it. the truth is, is that when we get it we realize that that's not what we wanted all along.

that's why it's better to know the person and talk with them before getting in bed with them

and that what our religion says because it's based on discipline and human morality and steps to everything

Because an Egyptian who isn't a virgin is one who has sinned against God, and no man will accept to marry a sinner (Allahuma e7fazna).

But in the West, where God's teachings aren't observed, it is normal for a girl to have pre-marital affairs, and if the man who marries a Westerner does so as part of an attempt to integrate within the society, then he'll accept her no matter what. If he's marrying her out of mere love, then I guess he has to accept and respect her culture that allows for some liberties in the same way that she is expected to accept and respect his culture after marriage.

over here fewer people are getting married. people have become cynical about marriage. divorce rate is high, an average wedding costs £16,000 and people don't have that kind of money considering that's an average yearly wage. yes you do get some women that have sex with many men, these women are looked down upon and men will use them for instant gratification then go. they are basically used as a free prostitute. it's no secret i'm unmarried and have a child who is 15. her father promised me the earth.18 and naive i thought we were forever and gave in after 7 months. 1 time and i fell pregnant. i told him, he moved away. from then i didn't get involved with anyone else, i've dated but they haven't been right for me. one night being on a date a guy asked the man i was out for dinner with if he was trying to get with me, he said yes. this guy said good luck mate she aint easy . but this is seen as immoral in your culture. in my culture its a rarity. a woman will ask why can't i keep a man. the answer is simply because she gives it up to easy or has the wrong attitude. i'm talking with an egyptian guy. i meet his family next year would have been sooner but funds dictate different. obviously he knows i'm not a virgin. neither is he. his family thinks he is though. he's told me no sex before marriage isa that happens. he's asked how many partners i've had. he's alright with it of sorts. if he wants to be with me he has to accept it. i can't change my past. i never thought i'd like someone from such a strict culture. he's asked me to abide by some rules i've agreed. its not a problem.

generally girls that sleep around aren't confident within themselves, can feel pressured by the boy/man and feel like they are wrong to say no, or they have not had the work put in to them as they grow up. they need to be taught sex is easy to come by, self respect and relationships aren't.

Edit: partners after marriage is not acceptable, men are the main culprits for this. they go out have one night stands, affairs. then confess out of guilt or the woman will feel something isn't quite right and start digging. some women accept it. alot don't so will divorce.

I am NOT a feminist. I recognize their wish to thrill their other halves and girlfriends. I recognize the way in which they desire to repair what's bothering us such a lot that we need to truthfully remind them that we do not desire it constant, we simply desire to vent LOL. I love how they're so powerful and protecting, how they get matters performed for us once we are not able to aid ourselves. I love how they simply become massive historical puddles of affection once they keep their kids! And I rather recognize the way in which they exhibit their love by way of their movements - shoveling the walkway and steps so we do not slip, maintaining the automobile filled with gasoline and walking easily, mowing the garden considering the fact that we hate doing it, solving up the residence whilst it demands fix....there are such a lot of matters, massive and small, that they do this exhibit their love.

Sorry, but this:

"But he agrees to marry a western woman that is not virgin too?"

I Don't believe in. I have values...

I understand that you said in general...so all I'll say is that such "love" isn't based on true love...it'll probably be based on money, "citizenship to heaven"* or w/e

*It freaking annoys me me when I see Egyptians thinking that a foreign passport is heaven...it's quite sad...I would burn mines and I wouldn't care...I have no need for it.

Well because as a Muslim my Muslim wife shouldn't have had any affairs with any man before marriage (unless she was married before ofcourse) as for the western women,they didn't know that sex before marriage is strictly forbidden,so she has an excuse-though i would never think of marrying someone who had affairs before but that's how things go.

The real question is why the Egyptian, or Arabs in general, would never marry an Egyptian girl that he knows not to be VIRGIN, but expects to be congratulated for his honesty if he tells her he's lost his???!!!

Edit- this kinda reminds me of this

--> http://elkoshary.com/features/new-law-egyptian-bri...

egyptians or arabs never marry not virgin as he knows by that that she is not straight or polite and so he wont marry her and also as may any body knows about her first relations and people will talk badly about him

but if she is western people know that she exactly had relations before and she is not virgin that is just my opinion