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Question for Liberals and Independents: Has Lieberman's attitudes on Healthcare changed your mind on Isreal?
It has for me. I was originally very pro Israel, but the more time passes, the more concerned I was about their actions in Gaza, the fact that they keep electing these very war like governments and the fact that they just won't act in good faith on any agreement. They spin things a lot, but I don't believe them any more. They sound too much like FOX news now.
But I think the final straw for me was the actions of Joseph Lieberman on Health Care. It might seem unrelated but anyone who acts like that towards health care reform, who supports AIPAC and is so pro Israel, probably isn't supporting something I want anything to do with.
Note: I don't really care about libertarian or conservative view points, but feel free to spread your propoganda more if you want. I'll just hide you.
So who else it sounds like it didn't change your mind at all, but that you have good opinions on both issues.
Lieberman is a jerk.
I guess that I shouldn't be anti Israel just because of Lieberman but since I hate him, I really can't think of the harm in making HIM think I think removing all US funding from Israel is because of him.
Selfishness is really the only language he understands.
happy pappy: Well, that was a well written and eluditory answer. And in case you change it after the fact, I think we can all agree that "Bullshit!" is about as substantive an answer that anyone can expect from what is probably a Palinite.
happy pappy: Well, that was a well written and eluditory answer. And in case you change it after the fact, I think we can all agree that "Bullshit!" is about as substantive an answer that anyone can expect from what is probably a Palinite.
Cosmic Windwalker: Your answer is intelligent and worthy of respect. You are right, I should approach the entire thing from a neutral and logical perspective. Let me think:
Well, both people have good claims to the land. One group straps suicide bombs to themselves and blows up children. The other commits war crimes and then tries to pretend they didn't. One group elects HAMAS, and the other elects LIKUD.
From a purely rational perspective, neither is worthy of respect. However from a functional perspective, one is able to get food on a regular basis and the other isn't.
That means still not favoring Isreal.
Cosmic Windwalker: Your answer is intelligent and worthy of respect. You are right, I should approach the entire thing from a neutral and logical perspective. Let me think:
Well, both people have good claims to the land. One group straps suicide bombs to themselves and blows up children. The other commits war crimes and then tries to pretend they didn't. One group elects HAMAS, and the other elects LIKUD.
From a purely rational perspective, neither is worthy of respect. However from a functional perspective, one is able to get food on a regular basis and the other isn't.
That means still not favoring Isreal.
Cosmic Windwalker: Your answer is intelligent and worthy of respect. You are right, I should approach the entire thing from a neutral and logical perspective. Let me think:
Well, both people have good claims to the land. One group straps suicide bombs to themselves and blows up children. The other commits war crimes and then tries to pretend they didn't. One group elects HAMAS, and the other elects LIKUD.
From a purely rational perspective, neither is worthy of respect. However from a functional perspective, one is able to get food on a regular basis and the other isn't.
That means still not favoring Isreal.
So who else it sounds like it didn't change your mind at all, but that you have good opinions on both issues.
Lieberman is a jerk.
I guess that I shouldn't be anti Israel just because of Lieberman but since I hate him, I really can't think of the harm in making HIM think I think removing all US funding from Israel is because of him.
Selfishness is really the only language he understands.
So who else it sounds like it didn't change your mind at all, but that you have good opinions on both issues.
Lieberman is a jerk.
I guess that I shouldn't be anti Israel just because of Lieberman but since I hate him, I really can't think of the harm in making HIM think I think removing all US funding from Israel is because of him.
Selfishness is really the only language he understands.
Mooned22: I feel so sorry for you. But don't worry, I won't disturb your little dream world.
5 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
no - integrity on all levels of government are required.
don't ditch israel because there are crooks on the take - deal with the crooks of which Lieberman is one.
our country is divided by labels - dems/repubs/jews/terrorists/religion - we need to look at issues and people involved in the issues.
because a murder receives benefits does not mean all people receiving benefits are murders.
we want to use labels and blind beliefs to make everything mindless - we need to remove the blinders and look into the hearts and minds of people and drop the labels.
- Who Else?Lv 71 decade ago
I already disapproved of Israel's anti-Palestinian activities before this, and I also disapproved of Lieberman's politics before now. Running against the Democratic candidate for Senator in Connecticut, as well as his support of John McCain in the 2008 presidential election, should have cost him his position in the Democratic Caucus and his corresponding committee seats. Now he's out to thwart the Democrats' attempt to reform health care. He should caucus with the Republicans.
- 1 decade ago
Joe Lieberman gained a lot of respect from me this week,he's not your average liberal following Nancy Pelosi like Obama and his blind sheep.
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