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Jews/Rabbis,a serious question?
I am sincerely asking this question in hopes that someone else who has been through this knows what I am talking about....so pleas,don't be mean! I have been digging into Judeo/Christian studies for about a year now. Let me stress, I am not religiously Jewish,but I do come from a Jewish heritage.(My side of the family converted to Christianity of,course)
That being said,the more I study, The more I am in rejection of Pauline doctrine. It,to me,simply doesn't line up with the the Torah,The Prophets,or what Jesus himself said in the gospels. This has caused me to sincerely question all of my religious beliefs,and tend to lean now more toward Judaism being much more correct.
But in order to become Jewish you have to reject Jesus completely....and I am just not really sure what he was to be honest. Maybe a good teacher,Maybe Messiah? (Hence,all the Messiah questions)
In order to find answers I have been kinda straddling the fence,and talking to people on both sides,just to find out really what I do believe...and boy have I run into some weird doctrine!
(Has anybody heard of this Two-house,Ephraimite,Sacred name bunch. It seems they just have enough truth tto get you interested in what they are saying,and they slam you with this crazy"everybody's a jew" stuff....WEIRDOS)
So as a result of all this, I am sincerely thinking of studying with a Rabbi to have all these questions that arise in my head explained from a Judaic standpoint,since it seems to be the only one that lines up with scripture. Is it okay for me to go to synogogue? Can I get a Rabbi to study with me? Is it bad to get views from both sides?
(In the mean time,I love the Jewish people,and tend to identify with them more...My great-grandmother was Polish Jew)
Celebrated hanukkah with my cousins this year,first time,loved it:)
okay,meghan,the only thing is that when G-d gave the Torah,he told the children of Israel to keep these commands FOREVER...Paul cannot deminish what G-d said. I cannot beleive what he taches when it is in blatent contradiction to what the word of G-d says.
I HAVE studied scripture,extensively...that is what got me to this point:)
11 Answers
- ?Lv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
1 - Please ignore diadem. Any Jew who believes in Jesus is Halachically no longer a Jew.
2 - A Rabbi will most certainly be glad to help you out. If you are in the Montreal area, send me an email (through my username) and maybe my wife or I can learn with you and/or answer your questions. Otherwise, use the search at www.chabad.org to find the Rabbi nearest you, and ask him directly. And you can ask any questions you'd like here or email them to me and I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge (although I must confess my almost complete ignorance of the 'New testament' having never studied it).
- 1 decade ago
I'm Jewish, and my view of Jesus is that he was probably a charismatic, well meaning young preacher who sought to reform *some* aspects of Judaism. There were many such men who were claiming to be 'maschiach' at that particular time.
I recommend that you keep reading and studying, and eventually your beliefs will crystallise. Meanwhile, read up also about the Noahides - a lovely, lovely movement which has links TO Jews and Judaism, without *being* Jewish.
You are right in that you can't convert to Judaism AND still worship Jesus.
I recommend:
Chabad, and also Aish Ha Torah, are two Jewish groups that are VERY VERY VERY welcoming both to Gentiles AND Jews who wish to learn more about Judaism :)
- kismetLv 71 decade ago
You can definitely contact a rabbi and have your questions answered.
You can use this search engine to find a rabbi near you:
http://www.chabad.org/centers/default_cdo/aid/1567...
You can also look at these websites for the Jewish view of Jesus:
- oldandtiredLv 71 decade ago
There is no such thing as a sin, sinner, crime, or criminal (evil) unless there is a law to define same. Where do we find the knowledge of good and evil defined? In law. What got Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden? Accepting, against the will of God, the knowledge of good and evil. What do most religions teach.....................good and evil.
If you are concerned about being a child of God, why would you want to rip off the label you were born with, namely, "made by God," and trade it for any other label? Why join anything that divides mankind, much less an organization that expects you to accept the knowledge that God forbid man to have?
- mavenLv 61 decade ago
Perhaps it would be easier for you to think of him as a Rabbi and the last supper as a Seder. (The apostles were Jewish, too.)
Source(s): Reformed Jewish Person - DustLv 61 decade ago
Paul was in direct contact with Jesus' disciples, who agreed with him about the fundamentals of the Gospel:
Galatians 1:18-24 (NIV)
18Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Peter[b] and stayed with him fifteen days. 19I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord's brother. 20I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie. 21Later I went to Syria and Cilicia. 22I was personally unknown to the churches of Judea that are in Christ. 23They only heard the report: "The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy." 24And they praised God because of me.
1 Corinthians 15:3-8 (NIV)
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter,[b] and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.
These verses describe Paul's visit to Jerusalem a few years after his conversion to Christianity. He talked with Peter and James (the brother of Jesus) for two weeks (according to Galatians 1:18) and they agreed that the resurrection of Jesus was central to their beliefs. It's possible that you think Paul was just lying about this visit, but I think one would have to be very hardnosed not to give him any benefit of the doubt.
To get a more balanced view of Paul, I suggest reading up on Paul's Jewish background, and what he really thought about Judaism. As an ethnic Jew, he wasn't anti-Jewish, but he felt strongly that faith in Jesus, not torah observance, was the content of the Gospel message.
The best place to start reading is, of course, with Paul's own letters. However, they can be difficult to understand because they were written so long ago and many issues have shifted since then. I recommend reading them along with the standard New Testament commentaries. You can find some of these at public libraries, and more often at seminary libraries.
- ?Lv 51 decade ago
It's good that you're sincerely looking for answers.
I was in your exact same position (well, I'm actually Jewish though) with respect to Paul when I first accepted Yeshu'a as the Messiah.
First, I wouldn't worry about the Ephraimites/ Sacred Names/ et al, since they're pretty much a fringe group and a small minority.
But, after I studied the word extensively (I'm talking 12...14 hours a day, day on end), I began to understand Paul's writings and saw that he was not speaking against the Messiah's doctrine. If you become an Orthodox Jew, then you can forget about Yeshu'a because you will have to renounce your faith in him. They will not accept you. And, you know what the Bible says happens when you reject Yeshu'a; he will reject you. Don't cross that line unless you are absolutely sure of what you are doing.
Until then, there's nothing wrong with assuring yourself of what you believe. But study, study, study. Check out my two sources. One of them is my own blog; the other is a great site for Messianic Jews. You just have to learn to hone your sense of discerning what is biblical and what is not by relying on God's word. If something of Paul contradicts something of Yeshu'a, then you are not understanding Paul correctly. That's all there is to it. Paul does accord with Yeshu'a, so study until you find the answers which allow his words to line up with Yeshu'a. The information is out there.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
if Jewish you can have only one religion
- PROBLEMLv 71 decade ago
I would suggest asking somewhere like
http://www.chabad.org/asktherabbi/default_cdo/jewi...
rather than R&S, I will star your question in hopes someone can answer it.