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My new puppy and my moms "pack"?
My moms family has a pack of 2 dogs and 1 cat. A very laid back, calm, affectionate black lab mix- 6 years old, a curious, energetic schnoodle- 2 years old and a very high strung kitten- 3 months old.
I like to take my 4 month old puppy over there to play and get interaction with the dogs. She and the kitten have a great time playing, running, and play-fighting for hours. The schnoodle is very interested in the puppy and always wants to know what is going on but doesn't really get involved in the play very much. And the lab just pretty much leaves the puppy alone for the most part.
But lately I have noticed that the lab with growl at the puppy if she gets too close to him. He likes to lay on the foot of the couch and sometimes she will run by or jump over him when she is jumping off the couch. He has started growling and sounds pretty fierce.
I don't really know what to do. I'm concerned that she is going to get hurt, but at the same time, the lab has never been an aggressive dog and his behavior has become worry some. He hasn't snapped at or bitten her, just verbal warnings. And he doesn't act this way to her all the time, just after we have been there for a while and everyone has sat down on the couch to watch tv.
Is he just a grumpy old man that wants her to calm down? I know that in normal dog packs, the elderly don't raise puppies, but he isn't considered "elderly" is he?
Or is my puppy unbalanced and he is trying to fix it? How do I even know if she is unbalanced?
What do I do? I don't even know which of them I should be disciplining when this happens.
Thanks!
5 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
The lab is the oldest dog in the family and therefore is likely viewed by other dogs in his pack and is viewed by himself as being an elder in the group. As an elder, he should be given the most respect. He takes on a more authoritative role in the group. What he is trying to do is train the puppy. Most likely your puppy is still developing its understanding of what is acceptable and what isn't socially. A socially educated dog or puppy will be able to read another dog's body language to be able to tell if another dog wants to interact or be left alone. The lab probably doesn't mind the puppy being in his space until he gets tired after a long visit and he wants some quiet time. At this point, the lab's body language will be telling the puppy to stay away, and when the puppy ignores these cues, the lab punishes the puppy with a scolding.
This can be dangerous, because there is a possibility that the lab will resort to biting the puppy if it doesn't learn.
What I recommend you do is:
A) attempt to bring the puppy for shorter visits, so that the lab does not become bothered by the puppy, and
B) keep the puppy away from the lab and encourage it to leave the dog alone when you see that the lab is becoming tired.
However, it's important to note that it's in interactions like these that the puppy will develop social skills. If this puppy does not learn how to read stay-away cues from the labrador, down the road, your dog may be bitten or attacked by a more dangerous dog in a park or on a walk, because it won't have developed these skills. Dogs also are generally more patient and tolerent of social misbehaviour in puppies than in older dogs. Another advantage you have is that the lab is a mostly calm and well-mannered dog, and he knows your puppy.
It is important that you allow your puppy a degree of learning from its mistakes, because for dogs, that's the main way they do learn - from experience. The biggest concern is whether the lab will hurt your puppy. If your puppy is close in size to the lab, then you should be okay, because the lab is just trying to teach the puppy, not harm it. If the puppy is much smaller, then the lab could accidentally hurt it. The best thing you can do is continue to allow these dogs to interact, but keep a vigilant eye on things until this stage passes (and it will).
Source(s): Have had lots of experience with dog training and difficult dogs, including dog aggression and puppy socialization. - B!nd!Lv 71 decade ago
Dont stress- this is very normal behaviour.
Out of the dogs- the lab is the leader- he is the oldest and has been there the longest.
Next comes your Schnoodle, and last in the pecking order is your puppy.
Your older lab is just showing the pup that he is the boss- and he is not interested.
This is a good lesson for your pup- it is teaching her to respect her elders, and how to react around other dogs.
My dog is hopeless when it comes to signals like this- she blatantly ignores warnings like this- which can lead her into fights.
The fact that your Lab has not tried to snap at the pup (and if this happens- dont punish the old dog- most dogs snap or bite once to make their point- once the fighting is over they know where they are and they tend to get along quite happily afterwards) is good- it means that puppy is respecting the older dog.
There is nothing wrong with your dogs- they are both acting quite normally and it sounds like they are getting along pretty well.
- 1 decade ago
Quit watching Cesar, you'll screw all the dogs up.
Your puppy is reaching the end of what's commonly called a "puppy license". A puppy license is granted to young puppies by adult dogs which basically says "You're young, I'm going to tolerate your foolishness" As the puppy gets older the adult dogs start expecting more out them and they begin to lose their license to crazy behavior.
The older dog is now beginning to see the puppy antics as rude behavior, which they are. Who wants a puppy jumping all willy nilly over them? Even people stop tolerating this behavior from pups at some point, except instead of a growl we often use a sharp NO. Also your puppy needs to learn to relax, when you are all sitting down to watch t.v. the lab has learned its time to chill. He is trying to teach the puppy the same thing.
When all of you sit down to watch tv make your puppy lay down and chill out with a bone to chew or something. Your puppy will learn quicky from the older dog that jumping on him is not appropriate, a growl is no more than sign to Back Off, Chill Out, Leave Me Alone! If your puppy just isn't getting the point to leave the older dog alone and stop jumping on and over him, then move your puppy away so he's not bothering him.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
She'll be fine. The lab is saying, " Hey Bud. don't get too close." The puppy needs to learn that. I think you have a great learning opportunity for that pup.
When the lab growls., don't interfere. Don't run over and pick the pup up. Just say nothing and watch.
- laruschLv 45 years ago
definite it is wide-spread for a domestic dog to choose your consistent interest, yet you're doing an fantastic disservice to the puppy by employing giving in to him. you would be transforming into issues which will take different artwork to undo at a later time. He does not ought to sleep with you and it is not a solid concept to enable him. what is going to ensue whilst that amazing little domestic dog comes to a decision his place is next to you and could no longer enable absolutely everyone close to you?