Creationists: The creationist's watchmaker analogy...?

I, too, have heard that analogy many times. However, it doesn't explain how a god makes any more sense (or even as much sense) as a natural explanation. Earth's moon creates tides, yet it has no intellect. Air movement over sand creates sand dunes, without intellect. Why, then, is an intellect required for the "creation" of the universe? Where is the evidence for this intellect's existence?

Humans used to see gods behind every natural occurrence, including rain, lightning, earthquakes, crop failures, diseases, etc. Modern humans, through science, understand the natural mechanisms behind what used to be attributed to gods, proving that gods are not necessary. Yet, there are still humans, today, who see an angry god at work in hurricanes, tsunamis, and even AIDS.

Considering the fact that the world's knowledge is at the fingertips of anyone with an Internet connection, I can only assume that people who cling to the belief in gods do so for emotional reasons. There are certainly no rational reasons to do so.

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Well, the watch is but one example of an object that clearly has an intelligent creator. I do not dismiss the possibility that the big bang actually did take place. It is my opinion that the big bang may very well be the most plausible explanation for the origin of the cosmos. To me, this notion doesn't preclude the idea of God. Perhaps some may argue that if the big bang did happen, that God would not be a necessary part of the equation. From a teleological point of view, it makes logical sense to me that some supreme intelligence was behind the catalyst for the big bang. You do not necessarily have to agree with me that it was God- you could say that it was some entity with great power and intelligence- a prime mover, a demiurge, or a deity. In my own subjective view, it indicates that God was the mover. The watch cannot self create. It cannot will itself into existence. So by this analogy, the cosmos must have had a creator, as the watch did. Your mileage may vary.

Oh yeah, great, the old 'where did God come from' question

How original - have you been reading dawkins again?

The question is really on the same level as "What does purple taste like?" - a completely nonsense question that shows a flawed understanding of the concept you are trying to argue against. It's really kinda sad

God is the term that we give to the entity that started this whole thing - everything that we see had a beginning, everything that we see follows laws that dictate how this universe works - but those things and those laws came from somewhere, and this origin is something that is not bound by these laws - that's what we call god.

I mean, really, do you even try to understand what people believe before you try to argue about it? Or are you content to use recycled arguments that aren't even taken seriously by most theists?

Thats where the analogy breaks down. Who's the watchmaker maker? If a watchmaker can exist undersigned who's to say a watch can't?

A watch isn't a living thing.

That's like saying that since I have to put brownies in the oven to finish making them, we should put babies in the oven to help them grow*.

To answer your question, the creator doesn't exist. The notion of a creator was created by men than wanted to control the masses.

*I solution that I do not recommend in any way shape or form.

Yes, it's a silly argument really. A watch is not a living thing. Simple as that.

All living things evolved through the mechanism of natural selection.

The universe is a strange place.

The answer to the ultimate questions are most likely more philosophical than scientific.... After all, Man's understanding of the universe breaks down in the abyss of a black hole. Yet they exist.... something exist that cannot exist????

See, It's strange

So you've got a solution to the old "chicken or the egg" riddle figured out?

Why trouble with what you cannot possibly know?

The watchmaker is the alpha and the omega. Who set off the big bang? *Is it as I suspect, even evolutionist analogies don't make sense?

yea - i file the watchmaker one with the banana one.