Climate Change Deniers and Skeptics, do any of these descriptors apply to you?

1) You feel you have a Lack of Knowledge? NO. While I could learn a lot more, I have enough knowledge to conclude that skepticism is a rational position.

2) You feel Uncertain and doubt that Climate Change is true? NO. I believe climate changes. And I believe a small portion of it is due to anthropogenic reasons.

3) You distrust the information sources? YES. Even before the East Anglia CRU emails, there were enough people with "skin in the game" to know that politics and economics were key driving factors.

4) You feel helpless it is the Government/Industrys' responsibility because they are to blame? NO. My wife and I are proactive conservations; I have substantial influence over some green initiatives undertaken by my company.

5) You believe there is nothing to worry about because technology will fix it? NO. I wasn't terribly concerned about the doom and gloom scenarios to begin with.

6) You feel climate change is unimaginable something that is such a distant threat that it may not even happen? NO. I do not believe the doom and gloom scenarios. However, I do believe the world has concerns which should be prioritized well above climate change.

7) You feel that there are far more important things to worry about, like your family or finances? AND disease and poverty and crime and war and housing and drug abuse...

8) You don't want to think about it because being more sustainable will threaten your standard of living, be inconvenient, and cost more. NO. I do think about it, and live very efficiently.

9) You feel you can't do anything about it because it is already too late? NO. It is incumbent upon us to be good stewards of our environment, even if we are skeptical about AGW.

10) You feel that nobody else is taking climate change seriously, there is lack of political action

by industry and governments so why should you bother? NO. That should be evident from my other responses.

11) You personally don't have to do anything, others will solve the problems (if there are any) for you? NO. That should be evident from my other responses.

12) You feel only hippies are green, normal people and the economy need consumerism? NO; traditional conservatives, like Teddy Roosevelt, are also conservationists.

13) You feel it is all a scam to make you pay more? YES. At least I think this is part of it, and a reason for my skepticism.

14) Your God will save you? In the context this is asked, no. Spiritually, yes.

1)You feel you have a Lack of Knowledge?

No I read and study a lot I read both pro-AGW and Anti-AGW information.

2) You feel Uncertain and doubt that Climate Change is true?

I know for a fact the climate is changing it’s always changing it would be big news if the climate didn’t change, what is up in the air is what man has to do with it.

3) You distrust the information sources?

It depends on the source, I trust those sources that release the raw data and show step by step how they arrived at their conclusions. Unfortunately, its generally those pushing AGW that hide data, lose data, refuse for release source code etc.

4) You feel helpless it is the Government/Industrys' responsibility because they are to blame? No.

5) You believe there is nothing to worry about because technology will fix it?

No, if there is a problem we need to address the problem directly not move money from “rich” countries to poor countries.

6) You feel climate change is unimaginable something that is such a distant threat that it may not even happen? NO

7) You feel that there are far more important things to worry about, like your family or finances? YES.

8) You don't want to think about it because being more sustainable will threaten your standard of living, be inconvenient, and cost more.

If done right being sustainable will raise the standard of living and in the long run will be cheaper. The problem is that when even when you can show what you are doing is sustainable, those pushing sustainably say it’s not enough. It’s sad really I’ve seen many a good project that would generate income for the poor, better their life be shot down time and time again.

9) You feel you can't do anything about it because it is already too late?

It’s never too late to do something.

10) You feel that nobody else is taking climate change seriously, there is lack of political action

by industry and governments so why should you bother?

No, if and big IF there is a real problem then we all need to take action.

11) You personally don't have to do anything, others will solve the problems (if there are any) for you?

See #10

12) You feel only hippies are green, normal people and the economy need consumerism?

No most people I know want a clean environment so most people want to be green, they don’t want it shoved down their throat through higher taxes that really don’t solve any problem. Much of what is being push as “green” cost much more and don’t solve any problem, but it does make those pushing whatever on other feel better. If you really look into recycling you’ll see what I mean. In almost all cases it’s not only cheaper not to recycle, but it’s better for the environment.

13) You feel it is all a scam to make you pay more?

Yes, when you look at it how does taking money from the “rich” countries and giving to “poor” countries help with AGW, it doesn’t nothing to address the problem.

14) Your God will save you?

No I don’t believe in God, but I know my actions or inaction will felt by my children and grandchildren and great grandchildren so it is my reasponability to make sure the actions we take or don’t take today will not enslave them.

1) You feel you have a Lack of Knowledge?

Absolutely not. The more I read up on the issue and the more I participate in this forum, the more skeptical I become.

2) You feel Uncertain and doubt that Climate Change is true?

The climate is in a perpetual state of flux. It has been warmer, during other multicentury periods within human history, than it is now. Those warm events were not caused by man. Scientists do not fully understand what caused them. Whatever caused them could have caused the warming that occurred in the 20th century. The correlation between atmospheric CO2 and 20th century warming is quite loose and has fallen off over the last decade, and correlation does not prove causation. Past CO2-driven warming events (paleoclimate) involved CO2 levels 12-15 times present levels. We're talking now about a doubling over the course of a few centuries.

3) You distrust the information sources?

You mean the ones whose e-mails were leaked a few months back? Of course I do.

4) You feel helpless it is the Government/Industrys' responsibility because they are to blame?

No

5) You believe there is nothing to worry about because technology will fix it?

Fix what?

6) You feel climate change is unimaginable something that is such a distant threat that it may not even happen?

I think that in a free society the individual should be free to do as he pleases unless it harms others, and the burden of proof as to whether it harms others rests on those wishing to tax, limit or ban the activity in question. And with manmade global warming there is no proof at all.

7) You feel that there are far more important things to worry about, like your family or finances?

Yes

8) You don't want to think about it because being more sustainable will threaten your standard of living, be inconvenient, and cost more.

Define "sustainable" ?

9) You feel you can't do anything about it because it is already too late?

Too late for what?

10) You feel that nobody else is taking climate change seriously, there is lack of political action

by industry and governments so why should you bother?

No

11) You personally don't have to do anything, others will solve the problems (if there are any) for you?

What problems?

12) You feel only hippies are green, normal people and the economy need consumerism?

I don't litter, I don't like litter, I don't like pollution. To exhale is not to pollute.

13) You feel it is all a scam to make you pay more?

Yes

Nature makes the climate change all the time.

It is a religion so deniers is the wrong word. Heretics is what you mean.

If polar bears will die and the world will be under water how did man survive in the days before current temperature graphs started? For example when Greenland - the home of melting ice- was green and vikings lived there (before 1300 or something like that), when vines grew on Vine Street (London)... .

If armageddon will occur now but not then from the same thing how do we explain that? If polar bears died out then how come they are still around?

What heretics want is some facts not a stream of propaganda.

Global warming now appears on the hard cold facts to be a hysteria - people believing their own infallability but not looking at facts - like the bankers who could not see the bubble that would inevitably burst - or wouldn't look.

Aw Trevor, you can do better than that! All your statements are true. The problem is your reasoning is terribly simplistic. Yes, increasing CO2 will increase the amount of solar radiation (heat) trapped by the atmosphere. The glaring omission here is that there are many, many other factors which influence terrestrial temperatures. One only needs to look at an historical graph of temperature and CO2 levels. In previous warm periods, CO2 levels lagged temperature increases. So the temperature increased and a CO2 increase followed. You know very well why- more CO2 left the ocean due to heating, permafrost melted, etc. Then temperature slowly drifted down while CO2 followed. Apparently, there are certain natural feedback mechanisms which keep the temperature stable within a narrow range. Historically, temp goes up first, CO2 levels follow. And temperature didn't spiral out of control. But your statements are still correct as written.

Firstly, we try not to waste too much energy on junk science when we are busy denying the holocaust.

We have trouble believing how this agw could have started ,it defies all common sense , logic and basic science.

lets look at some basic facts.

I'm pretty sure that this world is suffering from a lack of co2. co2 is the current limiting factor of plant growth, any increase in co2 would immediately be taken up by plants.

co2 is heavier than nitrogen and oxygen so it would accumlulate towards the ground not the upper atmosphere where the greenhouse effect happens.

The north pole is billions of tonnes of ice, some 16000 ft thick and at minus 60, how could a rise of 2 degrees ever melt this?

The oceans won't get more acidic as 1st ,sea water is an excellent buffer and 2nd carbonic acid has a low dissassociation constant so you will get a precipitate instead of extra h+ ions.

And importantly the people pushing this are proven liars , remember wmd's, afghanistan, pearl harbour etc etc, do you honestly believe that our leaders give a toss about you or the planet or is there obviously something more sinister about all this?

A bit of the old common sense makes this non problem go away.

i am an environmental scientist with 30 years experience, and have worked in both the Arctic and Antarctic.

A meteorologist colleague of mine summed up the rational position on climate change very well, so I will quote him.

The human carbon emissions contribution to global temperature lies in the second place of decimals of a degree centigrade, ie. a few hundredths of a degree. They may reinforce natural warming, or mitigate natural cooling by some fraction of a degree, but they are not the principle driving force of our climate.

Everything over and above this is political hype

None of these apply to me, in fact all of these questions have a bias in them, which is they all imply humans have a major impact on the climate.

The fact is the climate of the planet is constantly changing and it's been in a state of change since it came into existence.

Have you seen the new article about the wonderful (corrupt) IPCC is about to retract it's story on the Glaciers melting by 2035.

The original report was based on the word of an Indian scientist who hadn't actually done any research!!

Cor....... whatever next???

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/...

Human activity causes global warming? How ridiculous! Has it not been common knowledge since ancient times that for every fire built there is an equal and opposite cooling on another part of the planet?